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re: White women voters
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:52 pm to davyjones
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:52 pm to davyjones
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Why y’all wanna fall for that blatantly fictional narrative involving suburban white chicks sinking Trump in the 20 election? Have y’all ever actually seen any verifiable and trustworthy information or reports showing that was indeed the case?
For starters, I'm married to one. Secondly, I know dozens, personally. They will vote republican. They voted Kemp, with the heartbeat law and Jim Eagle and constitutional carry, they were fine with it. But they will not vote for Trump. I know they are stupid and wrong, but it is what it is.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 7:57 pm
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Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:56 pm to deeprig9
If you don’t mind my asking, what was your wife’s approach in 2016, i.e. did she have same opinion of him at that time together with not voting for him? And same question regarding the others you referenced, to the extent you’re aware.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:58 pm to Nosevens
Repeal the 19th
Posted on 5/21/23 at 6:59 pm to davyjones
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Why y’all wanna fall for that blatantly fictional narrative involving suburban white chicks sinking Trump in the 20 election?
It's not false at all. Trump underperformed down-ballot Republicans in the majority of suburban counties, even in states he won. Heck, in the 10 largest counties in Texas he underperformed John Cornyn by over 100,000 votes.
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Have y’all ever actually seen any verifiable and trustworthy information or reports showing that was indeed the case?
Yep. There are plenty of suburban counties where he underperformed. Here are just a few:
2020 Fulton (GA)
Public Service Commission Republican District 1-147,774
Public Service Commission Republican District 4-145,973
David Perdue-146,466
Congressional R's-141,193
Donald Trump-137,240
2020 Cobb (GA)
District Attorney Republican-187,241
Clerk of Superior Court Republican-184,216
Sheriff Republican-172,706
County Commissioner Republican-179,667
US House Republicans-171,699
Public Service Commission Republican-170,398
David Perdue-169,658
Donald Trump-165,459
2020 Gwinnett (GA)
Republican Tax Commissioner-182,068
Republican DA-177,800
Republican Sheriff-171,568
Perdue-166,754
Donald Trump-166,413
2020 Pima (AZ)
Republican County Treasuer-250,713
Republican Sheriff-248,765
Republican Board of Supervisors-216,601
Trump-207,758
2020 Milwaukee (WI): Congressional R's-137,044, Trump-134,357
2020 Dane (WI): Congressional R-83,066, Trump-78,800
2020 Waukesha (WI): Congressional R's-167,546, Trump-159,649
2020 Brown (WI): Congressional R-87,044, Trump-75,871
2020 Racine (WI): Congressional R-59,327, Trump-54,475
2020 Outagamie (WI): Congressional R-64,982, Trump-58,379
2020 Montgomery (PA): Congressional R's-202,282 Republican Auditor General-195,435, Republican State Treasurer-189,613, Trump-185,460
2020 Bucks (PA): Congressional R's-225,231, State Assembly Republicans-201,105, Republican Auditor General-193,628, Trump-187,367
2020 Delaware (PA): Republican Auditor General-126,216, Republican State Treasurer-124,401, State Assembly Republican-122,681 Congressional Republican-122,176, Republican Attorney General-120,232, Trump-118,532
2020 Chester (PA): State Assembly Republicans-142,718, Republican Auditor General-141,525, Republican State Treasurer-138,083, Congressional Republican-136,936, Republican Attorney General-134,649, Trump-128,565
2020 Cuyahoga (OH): Congressional R's-207,824, Trump-202,699
2020 Franklin (OH): Republican Prosecuting Attorney-283,602, Congressional R's-221,013, Republican County Treasurer-217,617, Republican County Commissioner-213,516, Trump-211,237
2020 Hamilton (OH): Republican Prosecuting Attorney-221,298, Republican County Treasurer-201,650, Republican Sheriff-198,454, RepublicanRecorder-193,632, Congressional Republican-191,808, Republican County Commissioner-187,263, Trump-177,886
2020 Oakland (MI): Republican Sheriff-407,669, John James-334,629, Republican Treasurer-332,587, Trump-325,971
2020 Kent (MI): John James-176,795, Congressional R's-176,740, State Rep R's-168,405, Trump-165,741
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 7:01 pm
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:13 pm to RammerJammer91
By what legitimate and accurate method are exit polling statistics even compiled in a completely unprecedented election scenario involving such heavy use of mail in ballot voting?
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:53 pm to RammerJammer91
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Heck, in the 10 largest counties in Texas he underperformed John Cornyn by over 100,000 votes
This reality should scare the pants off Republican voters who are heckbent on choosing The Magnificent One as their standard bearer.
John Cornyn is at best tolerated in Texas; many of those same Cornyn voters actively despise the man, but still selected him over Democrat Mary Lou Hegar.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 7:55 pm to FriscoTiger1973
If Lying Biden wins we the people lose
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:06 pm to davyjones
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If you don’t mind my asking, what was your wife’s approach in 2016, i.e. did she have same opinion of him at that time together with not voting for him? And same question regarding the others you referenced, to the extent you’re aware.
Hated him in 2016 too, but turnout was low because Hill-dawg was a shoe-in.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:10 pm to tarzana
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This reality should scare the pants off Republican voters who are heckbent on choosing The Magnificent One as their standard bearer.
John Cornyn is at best tolerated in Texas; many of those same Cornyn voters actively despise the man, but still selected him over Democrat Mary Lou Hegar.
Yep. It gets even scarier though because it wasn't just Cornyn that he underperformed. In 8 of the 10 largest counties there were more than 10 other Republicans on the ballot that he underperformed. In the 3 largest counties (Harris, Dallas, Tarrant) he underperformed 29, 16, and 22 other state-wide Republicans respectfully. In Tarrant (Fort Worth) he was the only state-wide Republican who lost the county. Cornyn won that same county by 5%.
There were over 350K people in Texas who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but not Trump. In 2016 that number was approximately 450K. For comparison, in 2012 there were fewer than 75K people in Texas who voted for at least 1 down-ballot Republican but not Mitt Romney. The political DNA of the state is still R +10-11. A Republican with minimal baggage who doesn't alienate suburban voters can still win by double-digits.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:15 pm to Nosevens
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When OMB is the nominee will BDR voters sit out
100% they will, at least the ones posting at this site will, because deep down they are democrats, they even get all their talking points from DU
they dont even have a candidate, ron hasnt declared and he never will, and yet they still refuse to support trump
the average republican voter will support trump because he is the only choice thats out there that isnt going to be part of the uniparty.
there is a lot not to like about trump, mostly its just personality stuff people arent happy about, but none of it has anything to do with how he will run this country and improve everyones standard of living.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:20 pm to Jon Ham
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Polling is suggesting the opposite - it seems a large chunk of the Trumpet Babies can’t bring themselves to choose DeSantis if he’s the nominee.
How’s the head to head polling going?
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:38 pm to keakar
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100% they will, at least the ones posting at this site will, because deep down they are democrats, they even get all their talking points from DU
All of the polls I've seen that have asked this question have either been around 50-50 or there have been more Trump supporters saying they won't vote for DeSantis if he's the nominee.
I think Trump's a piece of shite and a fricking loser but I'll vote for him as he's better than any Democrat. On Twitter, at least 95% of the people saying they won't vote if their guy isn't the nominee are Trump supporters.
Will be interesting to see who the pussies who aren't team players turn out to be. Hopefully there are none either way.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 8:57 pm to deeprig9
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He could have been trying to win them over in the past couple years
There is literally nothing Trump could have done in the last last few years to win them over. Most modern women, both working and not, are passionate about LGBT, BLM, abortions, gun control, etc. They’re soft on crime, immigration, and homelessness.
What this country has is 2 very distinct opposing parties that are more divided than ever with little to no chance of reconciliation.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:25 pm to davyjones
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By what legitimate and accurate method are exit polling statistics even compiled
What are you talking about? Those are vote totals, not exit polling.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:35 pm to Flats
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What are you talking about? Those are vote totals, not exit polling.
Why didn’t the Democrat cheaters cheat for all of the other Democrat nominees?
That’s always been a puzzle…
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:45 pm to The Pirate King
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There is literally nothing Trump could have done in the last last few years to win them over. Most modern women, both working and not, are passionate about LGBT, BLM, abortions, gun control, etc. They’re soft on crime, immigration, and homelessness.
This is false.
Brian Kemp, southern-drawl white man who signed the heartbeat bill, constitutional carry, Jim Eagle, first to open up after lockdowns with vocal criticism from Trump, campaigned on personally rounding up illegals in his pickup and taking them back to mexico, beat the absolute dogfrick out of his democrat challenger Stacy Abrams (two times), and it's because white suburban women like him. They don't like Trump.
You can try as you might to figure out the mind of a woman, good luck to you.
This post was edited on 5/21/23 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:50 pm to The Pirate King
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There is literally nothing Trump could have done in the last last few years to win them over. Most modern women, both working and not, are passionate about LGBT, BLM, abortions, gun control, etc. They’re soft on crime, immigration, and homelessness.
What this country has is 2 very distinct opposing parties that are more divided than ever with little to no chance of reconciliation.
Those are good points, but you'd be surprised at the number of women that are open to voting Republican, provided that you have the right leader at the top of the ticket.
Youngkin won over many suburban wine and soccer moms who voted for Biden. Part of his campaign was focusing on indoctrinating children (CRT) in schools, which is a culture war issue. He succeeded and there were . DeSantis won the women vote in Florida against Charlie Crist 53-46 and only lost unmarried women by 1 point (50-49).
Posted on 5/21/23 at 9:52 pm to The Pirate King
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There is literally nothing Trump could have done in the last last few years to win them over. Most modern women, both working and not, are passionate about LGBT, BLM, abortions, gun control, etc. They’re soft on crime, immigration, and homelessness.
DeSantis and Kemp did ok with them. A conservative will probably never get a majority of them but they can make a dent. It all adds up in a close race.
Posted on 5/21/23 at 10:02 pm to NawlinsTiger9
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Which is why he won’t be the nominee
You're a prog, why give advice to your political opponents?
Posted on 5/21/23 at 10:04 pm to Azkiger
Not a “prog”
I like being right.
I like being right.
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