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re: White farmers in South Africa ask President Trump to intervene on their behalf

Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:48 am to
Posted by Parmen
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:48 am to
I'm all for taking in South African Boer farmers and bringing them to the Midwest.
Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:50 am to
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White farmers in South Africa ask President Trump to intervene on their behalf


Posted by Placebeaux
Bobby Fischer Fan Club President
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:51 am to
Russia is already taking them in and giving them land to farm.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134942 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:56 am to
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Russia is already taking them in and giving them land to farm.
Russia has invited several thousand SA white farmers to move to Russia and farm there. I don't believe the migration to Russia has actually begun yet. At least not that I can find in any media news.

I hope the SA farmers don't accept the invitation. They would be going from the frying pan into the fire. The last time I checked it's still illegal for a non-Russian to actually own land in Russia.

As soon as the farmers got their farms up and productive, it would be just like Russia to find a reason to take over their farms and give them to Russians.
Posted by WesternChauvinist
Member since Sep 2018
445 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 10:58 am to
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Those are the refugees we should be taking in. They actually have the ability and will to contribute instead of the dregs coming from south of the border looking for handouts


Indeed!

High IQ, instantly productive, culturally Western and Christian immigrants should have a special fast track to citizenship here, much like Israel does with Jews.

These people will pay for themselves and for the welfare benefits of hundreds of unskilled Central American barbarians that the leftists brought to our southern border.

But the leftists won’t want it because they’re white.
Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:01 am to
The people who support the anc feel like victims, and I get that. However, what's happening now is not the way to erase centuries old feelings. They can't be erased, and what happened hundreds of years ago isn't the fault of native white africans. The government should focus on strengthening agricultural programs for all growers, rather than expropriating farms and hoping the new owners can somehow manage them. They can invest in agronomy, ag science and research, tax programs for manufacturers and chemical suppliers, etc...

I'm good friends with a man from South Africa. The races have never hated eachother more than they do now, and it's all because of this.
Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
Member since Jul 2011
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:03 am to
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Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:05 am to
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But the leftists won’t want it because they’re white.


These people should have split long ago. They aren't going to leave with much but at least they'll be alive to start over again.

Trump needs to stay out of it.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:12 am to
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South africa needed apartheid, and it's been a human disaster since the day it ended. S African society was not built for blacks, and didn't belong to blacks, and the idea that blacks were owed some kind of special consideration in a place built by other peoples is absurd. Blacks, as a whole, have no legitimate claim yo a power sharing arrangement, and it is only by the power of international interests yhat they're eve of the able to discuss stealing the last remaining piece of white south Africa. 


So I guess you feel the same way about Jim Crow Laws. They were effectively the same thing.

You know, I'd respect you alot more if you just said you were racist against Blacks.
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Posted by Lakeboy7
New Orleans
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Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:12 am to
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Posted by Vacherie Saint
Member since Aug 2015
47628 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:16 am to
I don't agree with him about apartheid. All I'll say is that south Africa is not what it is today without it. Maybe that's good, maybe that's bad.

One this is for sure, though. What the anc is doing now is every bit as racist and disgusting as apartheid.
Posted by SouthernHog
Arkansas
Member since Jul 2016
7313 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:19 am to
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Trump is the savior of the white race, wake up sheeple.

Blacks and guilt ridden whites had their champion in obama, so it's our turn.
Posted by LSURussian
Member since Feb 2005
134942 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:21 am to
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Google Botswana, its the new SA. South Africans with money have congregated and taken the govt over there.
Just need to build a wall now.

The irony will be Botswana will become a prosperous economic center for Sub-Saharan Africa while SA itself won't even be able to feed itself.

From Wikipedia...
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Formerly one of the poorest countries in the world—with a GDP per capita of about US$70 per year in the late 1960s—Botswana has since transformed itself into one of the world's fastest-growing economies.

The economy is dominated by mining, cattle, and tourism. Botswana boasts a GDP (purchasing power parity) per capita of about $18,825 per year as of 2015, which is one of the highest in Africa.[10]

Its high gross national income (by some estimates the fourth-largest in Africa) gives the country a relatively high standard of living and the highest Human Development Index of continental Sub-Saharan Africa.[11]
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13913 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:32 am to
Can we do a citizen exchange program where we swap Marxist millennials and lifelong welfare recipients for these farmers?
Posted by Darth_Vader
A galaxy far, far away
Member since Dec 2011
73703 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:37 am to
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Those are the refugees we should be taking in. They actually have the ability and will to contribute instead of the dregs coming from south of the border looking for handouts



This. Bring them in and set them up on farms carved out of some of the vast swaths of federally owned lands out west. Tell them that as long as they maintain productive farms, obey our laws, and pay their taxes, they can gain citizenship
Posted by real turf fan
East Tennessee
Member since Dec 2016
11945 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:43 am to
In England, we met a couple from South Africa who were traveling to find a new home. He had a furniture mfg. business.
In the words of his wife, "You show me a tribe that can feed itself and I'll show you a bloody miracle."
They had three young sons and saw no future in South Africa.

This was twenty years ago and I hope that they are long gone from SA.
Posted by Tear It Up
The Deadening
Member since May 2005
13913 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:44 am to
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This. Bring them in and set them up on farms carved out of some of the vast swaths of federally owned lands out west. Tell them that as long as they maintain productive farms, obey our laws, and pay their taxes, they can gain citizenship


You don't even have to give them farmland. A lot of farmers are experiencing shortages of good qualified labor. Some are having to get guys from Mexico and Central America, and few already have South Africans here on work Visas.

Come here, work for one year, pay your taxes, don't break any laws, and then get priority citizenship status. If you don't do the above you get deported back.
Posted by volod
Leesville, LA
Member since Jun 2014
5392 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:45 am to
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This. Bring them in and set them up on farms carved out of some of the vast swaths of federally owned lands out west. Tell them that as long as they maintain productive farms, obey our laws, and pay their taxes, they can gain citizenship


Would you offer the same deal to our current farmers? The ones who rely of farm subsidies (which is a form of welfare). Instead of citizenship for them, perhaps give them a tax break.

Whether it be white Afrikaners or Hispanics, I'd be more careful about increasing immigration in general. It honestly seems like some of you would rather invest in a cheaper outsider than in our state economies.
Posted by ItNeverRains
Offugeaux
Member since Oct 2007
28166 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:48 am to
Time to short the Rand
Posted by TigerAxeOK
Where I lay my head is home.
Member since Dec 2016
38062 posts
Posted on 12/9/18 at 11:52 am to
What we need to do is to offer asylum to these South African farmers. There's good land to be worked here in the USA, and it will actually be appreciated by this country.

And unlike the Honduras and Guatemalans, this is an actual, legitimate asylum issue. It won't be long before their government kills these farmers one way or another. They don't deserve to be punished for the transgressions of their ancestors.

*As an added bonus, offering them asylum would absolutely cause a hysterical melt by the left.
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