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re: White American men are a bigger domestic terrorist threat than Muslim foreigners VOX

Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:07 am to
Posted by Wild Thang
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:07 am to
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sugar71


Your racist sky scream is noted
Posted by xiv
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:37 am to
I’m sure Vox did an awful job at whatever they were tryin—I won’t click the link—but Islamophobia in this country is silly, and all you have to do is compare body counts.
Posted by Amadeo
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:46 am to
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Alot of white men feel like they have been left behind by society. It's due to numerous reasons. Changing job market put them out. Women in their life either left or divorced them for reasons pertains mostly to money and status. The decline of many other traditional values in large part to to technology.

I see NO evidence of this whatsoever.

But I do understand the temptation to hold on to this myth in order to fill a void created by your own racial frustrations.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:58 am to
It's actually quite true. Around 400 times a year in the US, a gunman injures or kills at least four people.

According to "The Religion of Peace" no Muslims have done so in the US this year. The only one that came close was on March 12, when they note "A recent convert to Islam stabs three people over his religion, including two 13-year-olds."

In fact the 17 year old attacker was a white admirer of Adolf Hitler and generally pretty deranged to start with. But he claimed to have recently converted to Islam so they counted it anyway. LINK
Posted by genuineLSUtiger
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:01 pm to
Like I posted a couple of days ago, in a sane world these people would be receiving psychiatric care in a facility. The live in a world devoid of facts or logical thinking. I find it fascinating.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:07 pm to
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foshizzle
You are being statistically misleading. Muslims make up less than 2% of America, so it's to be expected they don't make up a large % of terrorism. The relevant measure is comparing % of Islamic terrorist attacks to the overall % of the population that is Muslim.

Also, looking at worldwide statistics tells a pretty clear picture.

Between 2011 and 2016, there were 70,767 terror incidents worldwide. A total of 60,320 of these incidents—85% of the global total—occurred in largely Islamic states. A total of 51,321 of these incidents—73% of the global total—occurred in the Islamic states in the Middle East and North Africa.

Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:07 pm to
The Washington Examiner (not generally thought of as a liberal site) reported that in 2017 there were 28 "mass attacks" in a public space in the US. This comes from a report by the US Secret Service. That report notes that only 2 of the 28 were ISIS followers.

So yes, non-Muslim bad guys are definitely much more common and you don't have to rely on a liberal source to arrive at that conclusion.
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Member since Mar 2012
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:09 pm to
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That report notes that only 2 of the 28 were ISIS followers.
7% of attacks being carried out by muslims is nothing to ignore, especially when you consider it exceeds the % of the us population that is muslim.
Posted by AU_Right
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 12:15 pm to

Know any of the Arundels?
Posted by sugar71
NOLA
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Posted on 10/28/18 at 2:49 pm to
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7% of attacks being carried out by muslims is nothing to ignore,


Despite visaed Saudis terrorists on 9/11 and Saudi Nationals making up the 2nd most foreign fighters in ISIS........ there is still no Saudi Travel ban. Ignore?



Seems like the ones ( like Bowers) carrying out nearly 80% the acts shouldn't be ignored either.
Posted by Smart Post
Member since Feb 2018
3539 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 2:53 pm to
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there is still no Saudi Travel ban. Ignore?

The travel ban focuses on hellholes such as Yemen that don't have functioning governments that can cooperate with the United States in vetting out terrorists, or openly hostile governments like Iran that refuse to do so.

Educate yourself (easier said than done).
This post was edited on 10/28/18 at 2:56 pm
Posted by RedStickBR
Member since Sep 2009
14577 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:06 pm to
Being white is one thing, but can we take these one by one and determine whether they were “right-wing?” Color me highly suspicious that a right-wing extremist would choose a country music concert and a Republican baseball game practice as targets. Neither of those are exactly the “target audience” one would expect a right-winger to go after.
This post was edited on 10/28/18 at 3:07 pm
Posted by TBoy
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Member since Dec 2007
23836 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:08 pm to
Almost all terrorists operate close to home. Middle Eastern terrorists are almost all in the Middle East. A terrorist with a travel budget and a visa is an extremely rare thing.

Since pretty much all terrorists in the USA are local, it’s logical to observe the demographics. It is not at all surprising that white males would be at the front of the list of domestic terrorists in the USA.

Is anyone surprised by that?
Posted by Tractor Tug60
South Texas
Member since Apr 2018
3060 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:12 pm to
Sound logic there low Tboy. SMDH
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21810 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:14 pm to
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Without reading I'm going to guess they conveniently start their body count on Sept 12th 2001?


And don't factor in that white men outnumber Arabic men like 40 or 50 to one here in America.
Posted by Azkiger
Member since Nov 2016
21810 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 3:22 pm to
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It is not at all surprising that white males would be at the front of the list of domestic terrorists in the USA.


Let me see the numbers adjusted for population percentages and that go back past 9/11.
Posted by foshizzle
Washington DC metro
Member since Mar 2008
40599 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 10:57 pm to
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7% of attacks being carried out by muslims is nothing to ignore


2 is a small sample size, small enough that it's hard to draw any conclusion. And as I noted, so far this year it's been 0.

Why are you worried about something that is so rare? So far in 2018, lightning has killed more people in America than Muslims.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 10/28/18 at 11:33 pm to
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Yet black men, who represent 6% of the population, are responsible for over half the murders in our country each year. I didn’t read the entire article but I’m sure Vox included that fact somewhere in there


So you want them to put your made-up numbers in article about domestic terrorism? Lol. Do you really want this to end up like conservative fake news? Like something JJdoc would post
Posted by Sweet daddy
Member since Jan 2016
1037 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 1:29 am to
What a piss poor excuse for a cover up white men kill because of hate , bigotry, racism , ignorance, not educated , mental health ,
Posted by LetsgoGamecocks
Member since Sep 2014
2916 posts
Posted on 10/29/18 at 3:28 am to
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In August, a 20-year-old white Nazi sympathizer from Ohio sped his car into a crowd of anti-racist protesters in Charlottesville, Virginia, killing a woman and injuring at least 19 others.


Woman who died was not touched by car but in fact was so obese she had a heart attack, more media changing the narrative to suit their agenda
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