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re: While Putin doubles down in Ukraine, his gas gambit is failing

Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:24 am to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:24 am to
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thats all fine and good until the independents and Pro- EU factions join the fight because they cant pay their light bill

I said that earlier. Let me know when a real party starts this talk, because right now it's fringe or anti-EU groups.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:28 am to
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You can dismiss it as “anti-EU,”

I mean they literally are. Want me to provide evidence?

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“far right” (but also far left! )

Europe isn't the US, bubba. They don't have Team A and Team B and polarity among those 2 groups.

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but it doesn’t mean it’s not happening.

Sure. Minority, anti-establishment groups are being opportunistic, politically.

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You're giving very “Some of you may die, but it's a sacrifice I am willing to make” vibes here.

That's the EU. I don't run the EU.

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The average European doesn’t actually care that much about Ukrainians if it comes down to a them or us choice.

The average European cares a lot about being part of the EU and all the advantages it has for their daily lives. Russia invading Ukraine to prevent EU integration and then turning their back to get cheaper gas would likely actually fracture the EU.

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:30 am to
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The longer sanctions are imposed on Russia the more desperate they’ll become with the use of tactical nukes in Ukraine.

Then nukes were an inevitability unless we just appease anything Russia ever wants to do in perpetuity.

You can have some sort of an argument for military intervention or aid, but if you're peeling back the skin ALL the way to sanctions? For an unprovoked invasion of a peaceful neighbor? That dog won't hunt. That's SOP.
Posted by Timeoday
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 6:59 am to
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....when I say Russia's invasion....


Oh I see. In your mind, NATO had nothing to do with this. NATO more than doubles in size, seeks the membership of Ukraine, and you expect Russia to just stand pat.

Frig the most globalist organization of them all, NATO!!
Posted by SlowFlowPro
With populists, expect populism
Member since Jan 2004
465352 posts
Posted on 10/11/22 at 7:16 am to
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Oh I see. In your mind, NATO had nothing to do with this. NATO more than doubles in size, seeks the membership of Ukraine, and you expect Russia to just stand pat.

Frig the most globalist organization of them all, NATO!!


Quality post. Thank you for your service.
Posted by supatigah
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:13 am to
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I said that earlier. Let me know when a real party starts this talk, because right now it's fringe or anti-EU groups.


keep one thing in mind, prices were high but they had direct access to Russian gas to stock up - mild protests ensue

prices will go even higher, they will be using their gas inventory and no direct access to Russian gas to replace

let the chips fall where they may
Posted by lsu777
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 10:26 am to
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That's cool and all, but backing a mad man with nuclear weapons will have consequences at some point. More innocent people are going to die because of this bull shite.


so the solution is just let him take whatever he wants?

yea that whole idea of appeasement has worked out so well in the past.
Posted by OU Guy
Member since Feb 2022
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Posted on 10/11/22 at 1:10 pm to
Saw this today:

*RUSSIAN 3Q CURRENT ACCOUNT SURPLUS EST. $51.9B VS $35.5B Y/Y
Posted by Drizzt
Cimmeria
Member since Aug 2013
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 3:17 pm to
Europe is doing so great! No issues at all.

LINK
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 3:18 pm to
SFP was wrong

How shocking
Posted by Cromulent
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 3:21 pm to
Man, I bet you sound like Darrell Brooks In the courtroom. Grounds
Posted by lsuguy84
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Posted on 10/13/22 at 3:21 pm to
Buyer’s market
Posted by Goonie02
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:14 pm to
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SlowFlowPro

I really hope this thread never dies. you deserve to get mocked for eternity.

BUYERS MARKET!!!



YOU"RE A FRICKIN IDIOT
Posted by SDVTiger
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:19 pm to
Posted by omegaman66
greenwell springs
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:32 pm to
Serious question: SFP, when did you turn to the dark side?
Posted by Strannix
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:37 pm to
Buyers market lulz
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:42 pm to
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Goonie02
That's a brutal bump.
Posted by LookSquirrel
Old Millville
Member since Oct 2019
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:56 pm to
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That's a brutal bump.


Then this should be popular.

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The Supreme Commander-in-Chief visited the Western Military District training ground in the Ryazan Region, where he inspected the training of the newly mobilised personnel.



Putin at the training ground in the Ryazan region checked the progress of the training of the mobilized, fired from a sniper rifle and talked to the military

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Putin knocks on wood as he leaves the snipers:


LINK
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/20/22 at 4:59 pm to
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Certainly the alleged sabotage of the active Nord Stream 1 pipeline and the unopened Nord Stream 2 pipeline has shut down two sources of Russian gas, but the EU no longer needs them.


My European colleagues paying 1000% premiums for gas bought at exorbitant prices from US suppliers will be thrilled to hear they have plenty of supply and are just getting price gouged for no reason.
Posted by NPComb
Member since Jan 2019
27917 posts
Posted on 10/20/22 at 5:01 pm to
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How long can Putin last?


No fricks given.

The bigger question is since the Ukes apparently have this under control can we stop sending money to Zelensky?
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