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re: Which prominent liberal commentators or politicians advocate for open borders?
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:05 pm to CelticDog
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:05 pm to CelticDog
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Its hard to tell the original propagandists from the delusional believers once a meme gets rolling.
Says the idiot who believes Trump will be indicted. You guys are some mouth breathing projectionists
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Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:05 pm to BBONDS25
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Emotionally driven.
No, you’re being sanctimonious. Emotionally driven is building a wall because it feels good to look at even though it doesn’t really address the root problem which is people coming over here legally then overstaying their visas.
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Has nothing to do with the law.
No government has the time or the rescources to enforce all laws equally all of the time. What a responsible government does is analyze the situation and uses the rescources they do have to the end that will result in the highest net benefit to society. In this situation, it’s using the rescources we do have on common sense controls and preventions as well as targeting individuals who are coming here to commit crimes rather than families who are doing jobs Americans don’t want and aren’t hurting anyone.
Emotionally driven is using ICE to sweep neighborhoods and schools so certain parts of the GOP base can go to bed feeling good the brown people are being punished.
This post was edited on 12/22/18 at 4:13 pm
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:06 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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No, you’re being sanctimonious. Emotionally driven is building a wall because it feels good to look at even though it doesn’t really address the root problem.
This is such crap. Almost every wall proponent is also in favor of cracking down on visa overstays, nationwide e verify and stiffer penalties for illegal employers.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:07 pm to Dale51
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*are you having a stroke*
No, but you might be as you’re having trouble with some really basic concepts.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:09 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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No, but you might be as you’re having trouble with some really basic concepts.
Uh Huh..
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:09 pm to jamboybarry
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Almost every wall proponent is also in favor of cracking down on visa overstays, nationwide e verify and stiffer penalties for illegal employers.
And who is opposing either of those efforts? Why do you want to waste billions of tax dollars on a feel good pet project that won’t address the problem you’re so worried about? Haven’t you wasted enough of it on toys for the pentagon they neither need nor want? The party of fiscal responsibility indeed
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:10 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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And who is opposing either of those efforts? Why do you want to waste billions of tax dollars on a feel good pet project that won’t address the problem you’re so worried about? Haven’t you wasted enough of it on toys for the pentagon they neither need nor want? The party of fiscal responsibility indeed
Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:10 pm to Dale51
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Uh Huh.
If you can’t tell the difference between an ad hominem attack on a poster in this thread vs an over the top comparison of ICE to the SS then I can’t help you.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:11 pm to Dale51
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Just stop. You're embarrassing yourself.
So you can’t respond
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:11 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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And who is opposing either of those efforts? Why do you want to waste billions of tax dollars on a feel good pet project that won’t address the problem you’re so worried about? Haven’t you wasted enough of it on toys for the pentagon they neither need nor want? The party of fiscal responsibility indeed
I’m not sure who you think you’re responding to. I’m all for a blanket....let’s say 10% fedgov budget cut in exchange for strengthening borders and the other immigration controls
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:14 pm to jamboybarry
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I’m all for a blanket
Why blanket? You think grandma’s Medicare should be cut at the same rate as a new line of tanks for the military industrial complex that are never going to be used? You really think that’s responsible?
This post was edited on 12/22/18 at 4:15 pm
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Why blanket? You think grandma’s Medicare should be cut at the same rate as a new line of tanks for the military industrial complex that are never going to be used? You really think that’s responsible?
Absolutely. Non discretionary spending is truly killing us and if we are to truly reform spending (like you pretend to be for) then everything must be on the table.
Any thing else and you’re just a fake playing lip service
This post was edited on 12/22/18 at 4:20 pm
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:20 pm to auburnu008
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You are insufferable.
and FT is worse.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:21 pm to jamboybarry
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Absolutely
Well at least you’re owning it. I think that’s a profoundly irresponsible position but you’re entitled to it.
Not saying Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security can’t be reformed to work in a more effective and efficient manner which would also save money, I’m all for that, but conservatives don’t seem to want to do that they just want to slash for the sake of slashing.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:27 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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No government has the time or the rescources to enforce all laws equally all of the time. What a responsible government does is analyze the situation and uses the rescources they do have to the end that will result in the highest net benefit to society.
Yikes. Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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So you can’t respond
How does one respond to gibberish logic?
Bet you can't answer that specific question!
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:33 pm to Draconian Sanctions
They all do because at one time I get were for border walls and now they fight it.
Your liberal leaders know it means more illegal votes to have more illegals in the country. They don’t have to use as many dead people votes.
Your liberal leaders know it means more illegal votes to have more illegals in the country. They don’t have to use as many dead people votes.
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
Lemon, Tapper, Duckworth, Hinano, Jorge Ramos and his sidekick, Kamala, Dickface Durbin etc
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:37 pm to BBONDS25
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Yikes
That’s all you can respond with?
Posted on 12/22/18 at 4:39 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Well at least you’re owning it. I think that’s a profoundly irresponsible position but you’re entitled to it.
But unbridled deficit spending is “responsible”?
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Not saying Medicare/Medicaid/Social Security can’t be reformed to work in a more effective and efficient manner which would also save money, I’m all for that, but conservatives don’t seem to want to do that they just want to slash for the sake of slashing.
Cut by 10% and provide an opt out for those moving forward
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