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re: Which of our board liberals believe Iran is winning?

Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:56 pm to
Posted by thetempleowl
dallas, tx
Member since Jul 2008
16063 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:56 pm to
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For Iran to win, they simply don’t have to surrender


That is so wrong.

Iran has lost international standing already. Their military, which Israel destroyed last year, is being even more destroyed now.

This is not winning.

Even if Iran's government is not changed, the war has been a huge American and Israeli success.

The regime will have been set back a while and will have lost a ton of equipment.

One could say this might not be a total win for Trump or a total loss for Iran if this were to happen, but no, Iran has not won.

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The American electorate will not tolerate inflated gas prices for a war we can’t barely justify 


Thankfully the straight is about to be open. Iran said it will not attack ships not flagged to the united states or Israel. And there will be a assortment of navy vessels from around the world to accompany the ships traveling through the straight.

So oil prices should drop.

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without putting ‘boots on the ground’, I’m not sure how you beat a highly motivated, ideological opponent.


Because there is a highly motivated majority of the population wanting the regime to fall and 30,000 died during protests.

I am simply amazed that people here think trump is a moron.

If trump can switch out the regime in iran, which is wouldn't be against, the entire geopolitical globe will have been reshaped since January first of this year.

Venezuela.

Cuba has already signaled they will change.

Iran and the entire Middle East.

Plus American technology has handled the best China makes. China would've given Iran some top of the line stuff just to see if it worked. It obviously did not.

Posted by lepdagod
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2015
6078 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 5:57 pm to
What’s your definition of winning… because it’s no way in hell Iran can win militarily… that’s known by everyone… it’s silly to even discuss it from said premise… that’s clearly not the war Iran is fighting… Trump has stumbled into the same thing that plagued us in every war after Korea… having to pivot mission statements because the enemy most certainly will be defeated militarily but that’s only one part of a war
Posted by RobbBobb
Member since Feb 2007
34264 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 7:43 pm to
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Which of our board liberals believe Iran is winning?

All of them

Plus, the "I voted for Trump 3x" (Fact check: they didnt) conservative-libertarians
Posted by Aubie Spr96
lolwut?
Member since Dec 2009
44417 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 11:11 pm to
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It absolutely worked in every war you just mentioned until politicians began to mettle like you are wishing for now. You factually don’t know what you are talking about



The old ‘we just haven’t tried socialism right’ ploy.
Posted by RelicBatches86
Florida
Member since Nov 2024
1530 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 11:22 pm to
The public pushed those politicians to "mettle" once the death tolls and cost went up.

Every country knows the US doesn't want to fight an attrition war. Iran has no problem fighting to the last man

We have so many examples. Why are you repeating neocon garbage.
Posted by MizzouBS
Missouri
Member since Dec 2014
6883 posts
Posted on 3/15/26 at 11:41 pm to
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The liberal traitors WANT Iran to win

Liberal’s want Trump to fail. It doesn’t matter what he does they hope it makes him look stupid.

Trump hasn’t had a big win that most Americans can appreciate. His wins are appreciated by the 45% of the Americans that still support him.
Posted by lake chuck fan
Vinton
Member since Aug 2011
23781 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:30 am to
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Trump basically ended his own presidency early. (Republicans want to lose midterms on purpose) He got duped by Bibi. The biggest unforced error on top of many small ones before this


Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:37 am to
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For Iran to win, they simply don’t have to surrender.


The primary reason for the military attack was to destroy Iran's nuclear capabilities.

You don't think we've done that?

That's what I've heard from the administration correct? Their primary focus was to attack Iran's nuclear sites. Everything else was secondary I would say. I think the regime change effort was triggered by the reported 30,000 murdered Iranian protestors right? Didn't Trump give a warning to the regime on that?

Not trying to start an argument. Just discussing the topic..

This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 2:18 pm
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Member since Nov 2007
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Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:42 am to
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
2382 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:54 am to
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For Iran to win, they simply don’t have to surrender.


Are you retarded? The world runs on oil and natural gas. Europe, India, even China, Japan, South Korea and many others will HAVE to get involved to keep the free flow if oil and natural gas and keep the Strait of Hormoz open. No energy no country. Iran is already defeated surrender or not. Once the Strait is open we pound their arses everytime they try to build their decimated military. If they can't close the Strait and can't build back their military and build nukes who gives a shite if they don't surrender. The regime will slowly die from a thousand cuts.
This post was edited on 3/16/26 at 6:57 am
Posted by uziyourillusion
Member since Dec 2024
654 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:58 am to
We did that last summer too. Is this gonna be an annual event?
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
31669 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 9:49 am to
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We did that last summer too. Is this gonna be an annual event?


Sure, sounds good.

Why not? Apparently the only thing people here are worried about is the extra $.20 per gallon for gas for a week.
Posted by Captain Rumbeard
Member since Jan 2014
7149 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 10:47 am to
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I’m not sure how you beat a highly motivated, ideological opponent.


You kill them.
Posted by mmcgrath
Indianapolis
Member since Feb 2010
37341 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:04 pm to
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Thankfully the straight is about to be open. Iran said it will not attack ships not flagged to the united states or Israel. And there will be a assortment of navy vessels from around the world to accompany the ships traveling through the straight.
I don't think Iran will win in the end (they can't), but everything you said here is bs. Where are you hearing the Strait will open soon, or that any other country will be providing escorts?
Posted by jammajin
Member since Jul 2024
1986 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:14 pm to
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We did that last summer too.
Is this gonna be an annual event?


it depends on whether the Iranian people get tired of us pounding their county annually over something their "leadership" could prevent if they stopped or not.

If their leadership, through direct negotiations continue to tell us they still have weapons grade nuclear material that they don't intend to give up or allow us access to . if "we will not give up diplomatically that which you can't take militarily" continues to be the official position of those in charge of Iran (who also have the elimination of the US and Israel as part of their charter) then yes this will be an annual or as many times as necessary event.

You're welcome by the way. sleep well under the blanket of protection that is this answer.



Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5571 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:17 pm to
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The retards just flow in


If you left, there would be one less.
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70465 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:28 pm to
Victory for the Iranian regime is the Ayatollahs and IRGC remaining in power. They are still in power now.
Posted by UtahCajun
Member since Jul 2021
5571 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 12:39 pm to
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The world runs on oil and natural gas. Europe, India, even China, Japan, South Korea and many others will HAVE to get involved to keep the free flow if oil and natural gas and keep the Strait of Hormoz open. No energy no country. Iran is already defeated surrender or not. Once the Strait is open we pound their arses everytime they try to build their decimated military. If they can't close the Strait and can't build back their military and build nukes who gives a shite if they don't surrender. The regime will slowly die from a thousand cuts

Not only is every country refusing to get involved, what you are saying will decimate our economy. Do you work for the MIC?

Or

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Are you retarded?
Posted by Kikicaca
1 Mile from the Atchafalaya
Member since Nov 2016
2382 posts
Posted on 3/16/26 at 6:35 pm to
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Not only is every country refusing to get involved, what you are saying will decimate our economy. Do you work for the MIC?


Like many on this board you think should happen in 5 minutes like getting a burger at a drive up window. You have no idea who and when others will get involved. I bet you they are already involved behind the scenes. Unlike you I don't expect complicated things like bringing other countries to our side. BTW I have no idea what a frucking MIC is.
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