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re: Where Does One US Tax Dollar Go?
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:04 am to jimmy the leg
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:04 am to jimmy the leg
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I can’t imagine being disingenuous enough to equate Trump and Biden.
You equated a more conservative position than Trump with Biden, so I don't see how.
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Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:12 am to Achilles Hill
So 13% “Income security” + 14% Medicare of which most of that goes to Medicaid our largest expense is people who don’t work.
Well, I guess those judge shows aren’t going to watch themselves.
Well, I guess those judge shows aren’t going to watch themselves.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:16 am to SlowFlowPro
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You equated a more conservative position than Trump with Biden, so I don't see how.
I explained how.
You chose to ignore a logical explanation to promote a bullshite narrative.
That says a lot about you.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:33 am to Achilles Hill
I would like to see a detailed audit of the current $35 trillion of US debt, I'm sure the audit would prove our government is looking out for the citizenry's best interests. 
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:36 am to jimmy the leg
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You chose to ignore a logical explanation to promote a bullshite narrative.
I didn't ignore it, I captioned it. You then said something stupid.
I only "equated Trump and Biden" within YOUR "logical explanation".
You do realize that within the framework of your alleged "logical explanation", this comment stands, right?
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You equated a more conservative position than Trump with Biden, so I don't see how.
So, why did you equate a more conservative position than Trump with Biden?
How is that not "disingenuous"? More disingenuous, in fact, than the closer-related Trump and Biden?
The point is, your "logical explanation" was bad, and this reaction was much worse. You may want to rethink your comments...or feel free to triple down and explain the above.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:37 am to Achilles Hill
15% goes to what government is supposed to do for the people.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:47 am to SlowFlowPro
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Do the math and tell me what kind of economic growth we need to overcome the deficit and debt issues.
Cap the federal budget at 2 trillion per year.
The debt will be gone in 20 years.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 9:57 am to SlowFlowPro
quote:It depends on the definition of "conservative," doesn't it? E.g., Blue Laws are not conservative, though by-and-large they are passed and supported by "conservatives."
so I don't see how.
Economic stability and decreasing the debt are conservative. With regard to the latter, decreasing spending and raising revenue are the tools at hand. Raising revenue implies economic growth and or tax increase. The problem is tax increase and economic growth are often oppositional precepts.
The separation of Biden and Trump is understanding the latter. Granted, Trump is more populist/libertarian than conservative. But an economic equation of Trump with Biden is simpleminded.
I suspect your larger point is that, in the past, at lower debt levels, inflation was a means of devaluing the debt. If inflation exceeded borrowing costs, debt was de facto diminished. As we approach fiscal dominance, we no longer occupy that paradigm. Progressive taxation excluding half the country will not solve it.
It is not evident our Congressional big spenders in either party fully understand the situation, or if they do, they are unwilling to come to grips with it. At least GOP'ers are willing to discuss it though. But when they do, they lose elections due to PPP (Progressive Propaganda Press) coverage. That coverage also continues to mask or severely deemphasize the threat of fiscal dominance from the public. Unless PPP messaging changes, it is going to require an existential crisis to shift our spending habits.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:01 am to SlowFlowPro
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You equated a more conservative position than Trump with Biden, so I don't see how.
You quoted yourself…a quote without real merit.
Again, equating Trump to Biden is a disingenuous take.
You do you though.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:02 am to NC_Tigah
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Trump is more populist/libertarian than conservative. But an economic equation of Trump with Biden is simpleminded.
This.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:06 am to NC_Tigah
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Unless PPP messaging changes, it is going to require an existential crisis to shift our spending habits.
This is a great response and the last sentence is spot on.
The ticking time boom of our fiscal system will cause a great deal more damage than who is elected president next.
Congress does not have the stomach to address it so off the cliff we will go.
Nobody is too big to fail.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:10 am to Achilles Hill
0% for waste fraud and abuse?
pretty efficient
pretty efficient
Posted on 4/13/24 at 10:59 am to NC_Tigah
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Trump is more populist/libertarian
What Trump view points are libertarian? List some.
Posted on 4/13/24 at 11:07 am to NC_Tigah
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t is not evident our Congressional big spenders in either party fully understand the situation, or if they do, they are unwilling to come to grips with it. At least GOP'ers are willing to discuss it though. But when they do, they lose elections due to PPP (Progressive Propaganda Press) coverage. That coverage also continues to mask or severely deemphasize the threat of fiscal dominance from the public. Unless PPP messaging changes, it is going to require an existential crisis to shift our spending habits.
The federal government could be reduced by 50% over a 5-10 year period and many of the wasteful bureaucracies in DC could be abolished.
The states should only be sending the necessary money/taxes to defend the nation from foreign hostilities and to fund huge national infrastructure projects. The only other things I may agree on are shared national interests such as space exploration and other advanced technology endeavors.
This ^^^^ approach of putting the states
largely in control of their tax revenues would reduce the wasteful spending by the Federal government by hundreds of billions every year.
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