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re: Where are the German, French, and British Air Forces?

Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:11 pm to
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:11 pm to
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Why can't the Europeans stop Putin?


They could, but they won't because of their dependence on Russian energy. That's why these sanctions are garbage. The Europeans are willing to sacrifice Ukraine for cheap energy. Now a 3rd global war could start on the European continent. So enlightened. So superior. So educated are the Europeans.
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:12 pm to
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There's no middle ground in this. It's either a NATO fight or it isn't. It isn't and it needs to stay that way.


Nato and US better not get involved
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:12 pm to
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They have no military, unfortunately. This should be a wake up call for them to start beefing up Europe and contribute equally to nato.



Exactly this.

And exactly why the Scandanavian countries enjoy such great quality of life -- this includes Canada too! (newsflash: the rest of us are defending your lavish lifestyle)
Posted by FLBooGoTigs1
Nocatee, FL.
Member since Jan 2008
59271 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:13 pm to
exactly let them deal with the Russians if they come knocking
Posted by jefforize
Member since Feb 2008
45901 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:14 pm to
Everybody gangsta till it’s time to sack up and fight
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:14 pm to
Yep, their military spending is barely at 1%. NATO is basically just the USA that pays for everything. That's why Trump cut their funds in 2019. If those countries got invaded they'd have no way to defend themselves. Germany been imasculated ever since WW2 and the English and French are cowards that can't be depended on.
Posted by TexanTiger68
Houston, TX
Member since Oct 2021
4339 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:16 pm to
My feelings too. I'd be more apt to help tUkraine than I would these Trudeau jackoffs.
Posted by Suck Out West
Phoenix, AZ
Member since Dec 2006
5932 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:17 pm to
I thought the Germans had a formidable military???
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
24005 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:29 pm to
Trembling nervously. In reality you are correct, they are waiting on us. Before we provide air cover we need to take what we have in Germany and invade them. Once Germany is out of the way we can go about messing stuff up.
Posted by Vlatket
Member since Oct 2016
7475 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 9:49 pm to
They have around 200k serviceman both active and reserve. Their military spending is at 1.5% of the GDP, barely 50 billion. The US spends almost 800 billion in contrast. They could barely defend a city with that amount let a lone a whole country.
Posted by choppadocta
Louisiana
Member since May 2014
2525 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:09 pm to
They do, kinda. Too bad most of their major assets like tanks aircraft and ships and submarines are down for maintenance for lack of parts. The only military worth a crap left in Europe is probably the French. The British military is small but professional. So small that there is no way they could stop the Argentinians from retaking the Falkland islands if they wanted to. Their power projection capabilities are gone other than maybe a zone around their islands.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 10:10 pm
Posted by jonnyanony
Member since Nov 2020
15213 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:11 pm to
Why would they?
Posted by jptiger2009
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2009
10010 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:13 pm to
Yes, poliboard, let's callout our allies!

Trust me, dumb shite, they care greatly about this crisis.
Posted by El Segundo Guy
1-866-DHS-2-ICE
Member since Aug 2014
11648 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:14 pm to
The whole of Europe relies on the United States for its deterrence of force. NATO is a joke.

I have done enough combat deployments and UN peacekeeping missions to see what the rest of NATO brings to the table.
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
63670 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:17 pm to
quote:

newsflash: the rest of us are defending your lavish lifestyle)


Newsflash: the u.s. didn’t want Europe armed. We paid them off with those lavish lifestyles.
Posted by WhereisAtlanta
Member since Jun 2016
847 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 10:57 pm to
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Home, where they belong short of those countries declaring war on Russia.

Why is this even a question?




Because he is stupid.
Posted by keakar
Member since Jan 2017
30152 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:11 pm to
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Why aren't they providing air cover for the Ukrainians? Are they waiting for the United States?


well its a lot easier to be all "lets go to war" when some other countries military will spend trillions to be your police force and be on the ready to do it for you

now we got tranny soldiers and transgenders in every leadership position in the military. the sad truth is, we suck now and its only getting worse and we would get our asses kicked if we had to do anything more then drones or special forces ops
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
23528 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:52 pm to
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The whole of Europe relies on the United States for its deterrence of force. NATO is a joke.
It's pretty much the way we (the US) want it, and it's worked out well for us.

There's probably 6 countries that in the early part of the 20th Century could have given us trouble (not necessarily beat us, but were established and/or strong militarily).
UK, France, Germany, Russia, China, Japan.
Coming out of WW2 and ever since, we've had the UK, France, Germany and Japan reliant on us for military defense (Germany and Japan under conditions from the end of the war, UK and France because they're war-weary), but still collectively pointed at China and Russia.
We can piss and moan about the way things are now, but the past 70+ years have seen us undisputed on top of the mountain.

I'm not sure I want a fully-invested Germany to become a military power, especially not with the EU the way it is. I think we might butt heads a lot more than we do with the Russians or Chinese.
Posted by HorseShoeHenry
Member since Jul 2021
307 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:54 pm to
You must not follow modern politics at all.

Ther is no excuse for such an ignorant question otherwise.
This post was edited on 2/24/22 at 11:58 pm
Posted by DMAN1968
Member since Apr 2019
13232 posts
Posted on 2/24/22 at 11:56 pm to
Doing the same thing they've done every other time.

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