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re: When is DOGE going to investigate the USDA and farmers?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 9:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
Posted on 2/21/25 at 9:58 am to RogerTheShrubber
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How did we manage before massive grocery stores popped up?
With long gone generational knowledge. Takes time to regain.
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Posted on 2/21/25 at 9:59 am to SallysHuman
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With long gone generational knowledge. Takes time to regain.
Laziness.
Just like I said.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:05 am to plazadweller
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Speaking with my uncle who is a farmer I’m not sure that’s been the case lately. Pecan farmers in central Georgia lost everything from Helene & got $0 in assistance
Disaster checks usually come the year after the disaster. It takes that long for the USDA to process the paperwork, drink their coffee, do their errands while working from home, etc before they get around to making deposits. The farmers will eventually get something but it will not be enough for them. Nothing is ever enough for them. Farmers like to complain.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:09 am to WeeWee
I think going after the farmers would be the last thing they would do. Especially since a lot of your small family owned farms are constantly getting shafted
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:10 am to Basinhunterfisher
I see you have never farmed
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:11 am to WeeWee
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Farmers like to complain.
too hot, too cold, too wet, too dry.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:12 am to theronswanson
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They need to compete against each other in the private sector
This proves you don't know anything about farming. Farmer's don't get to set a price for their commodities unlike other businesses. They receive the price posted on the Chicago Board of Trade less the basis at their local elevator. The CBOT is subject to tremendous volatility that farmers have zero control over. A political event in the other side of the world can affect markets here. Then there is fact that farmers buy their input at retail prices but are effectively selling what they produce at wholesale prices. Food production is a national security issue. Certainly one thing we need to be self sufficient in. Lots of ignorance on this board about how agriculture actually works and it's highly doubtful many posters can fathom how much it costs to produce a crop these days or the various ways that socio-political forces can combine to frick the producer 6 ways from Sunday.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:16 am to notsince98
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That isn't true. The government does indeed have programs that pay farmers to not farm land and make land "native" or leave it native.
I guess you are talking about CRP which is a program that retires land that has cropping history on it for conservation efforts. I think the national average is around $60 (wow they’re getting rich)per acre to place the land in. It’s designed to place marginal (low producing) crop land. Usually doesn’t even pay the land taxes.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:19 am to WeeWee
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When is DOGE going to investigate the USDA and farmers?
They would get a bigger bang up front investigating the welfare scams then move to farmers after...
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:19 am to WeeWee
Please go into detail how local farmers are welfare queens instead of using BROAD statements.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:20 am to WeeWee
Also what farmers are receiving these welfare checks and subsidizes cause mine sure hasn't come in the mail yet.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:21 am to Lugnut
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I guess you are talking about CRP which is a program that retires land that has cropping history on it for conservation efforts. I think the national average is around $60 (wow they’re getting rich)per acre to place the land in. It’s designed to place marginal (low producing) crop land. Usually doesn’t even pay the land taxes.
That is just one program. The CRP average is up over $80/acre and tops out around $230.+
This post was edited on 2/21/25 at 11:05 am
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:22 am to WeeWee
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When is DOGE going to investigate the USDA and farmers?
Forty percent of the US corn crop and 30% of the sorghum crop is used for ethanol production and fuels. Given it requires the buying of votes to win an election, I don't think much will be done to the farmers. Maybe the Trump can lay waste to the farmers of Illinois because of their communist leaders and we don't get their votes anyway.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:29 am to WeeWee
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As someone who grew up in a family of farmers
Might not be DOGE specific, but I posted a thread about an ad I heard on the radio about The Modern AG Alliance. It seemed super sus to me.
Modern AG Alliance
Right on the homepage, 'Control Weeds, Not Farming' sounds eerily like the Lefty slogan 'Control Guns, not Women.' Same group think session.
Any thoughts on this or am I barking up the wrong tree here?
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:33 am to WeeWee
I'll be happy when they get rid of corn in our gasoline.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:34 am to notsince98
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That is just one program. The SRP average is up over $80/acre and tops out around $230.+
I guess your are talking about the Sustainable Rice Platform???
That’s not even a USDA program or funded by the Govt so Try harder…
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:39 am to samson73103
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This proves you don't know anything about farming.
I know about my taxes going to prop up a private entity that can’t sustain itself. If a farmer relies on government money to survive then they deserve to fail
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:44 am to theronswanson
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I know about my taxes going to prop up a private entity that can’t sustain itself. If a farmer relies on government money to survive then they deserve to fail
Have you ever grown a garden?? How about putting a pencil to it and see how sustainable it is.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:45 am to Lugnut
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Have you ever grown a garden??
As a kid, most of our vegetables came from gardens.
People canned, etc.
People today are lazy and not very resourceful.
Posted on 2/21/25 at 10:47 am to Gifman
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how we subsidize
This is typically related to how the government also regulates and hurts production and growth.
Government does three things:
1. Tax it if it produces income
2. Regulate it if it’s efficient
3. Subsidize it if it is a failure.
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