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re: When does the nation start talking about solutions?
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:43 pm to LSUFanHouston
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:43 pm to LSUFanHouston
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It's up to society to fix the system problems.
Society needs to go what?
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:44 pm to LSUFanHouston
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The athletes say they want to force changes. Fair enough. What are the actual changes they want?
Literally anything you will give them. It’s extortion and it will not stop by making concessions
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
Democrats Block Police Reform Bill LINK
Dems would rather have police reform as an election issue than pass something meaningful that could potentially save lives now. But please continue to tell us how this is something republicans don’t take seriously.
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We saw how seriously congressional Democrats were taking police reform when Sen. Richard J. Durbin (D-Ill.), the second-ranking Democratic leader, dismissed legislation introduced by Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) as a “token, half-hearted approach.” For Durbin to question the seriousness and sincerity of Scott — a black man who has personally experienced police discrimination — was disgraceful. Scott said of Durbin’s comment, “to call this a token process hurts my soul.” (Durbin later apologized to Scott.)
Not to be outdone, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) described Scott’s bill as “trying to get away with murder, actually. The murder of George Floyd.” When asked if she would apologize, Pelosi said, “Absolutely, positively not” — though she claimed she had been referring not to Scott but to Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-Ky.). Sure, she was.
What Democrats should be apologizing for was their shameful vote on the Senate floor Wednesday to kill Scott’s legislation — and with it any chance of passing police reform this year. Democrats knew exactly what they were doing. As Sen. Angus King (I-Maine), one of three members of the Democratic caucus who voted to advance the Scott bill, explained, “voting against it will end the discussion of this subject in the Senate for the foreseeable future, and leave us with nothing to show for all the energy and passion that has brought this issue to the forefront of public consciousness.”
Dems would rather have police reform as an election issue than pass something meaningful that could potentially save lives now. But please continue to tell us how this is something republicans don’t take seriously.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
This whole systemic racism narrative is complete bullshite. The cops are not out there to keep the black man down, whitey is not out there to keep the black man down, there's one group and one group only holding them back. I'll give you 2 guesses as to who that is.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:45 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Most Americans realize we have some issues in this country when it comes to race. Some people, including a number of people who post on this board, think there are either no issues at all, or that those issues are self-induced.
Once again you fail to provide tangible examples.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:45 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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First please give us a tangible example of systemic racism?
I'll give you two.
1) Crossing the street when you see a black man on the same side of it / business owners trailing black customers in stores
2) Police officers stopping black-driven vehicles with inoperable taillights, and not stopping white-driven vehicles with the same.
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(While you are at give me an example of white privilege).
It's bullshite and doesn't exist.
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I suggest all these millionaires put on a uniform for one week and do ride alongs with local LEOs. I imagine that their tunes would drastically change on things if they witness first hand what LEOs really have to deal with.
Support.
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Also, you failed to address on key issue. How does less than 6% of a population account for over 50% of ALL violent crimes.
I'm not sure your numbers are exactly right but they are no doubt close. I personally believe there is a high correlation between poverty and crime, and black race has a much higher percentage of themselves who are poor.
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We talk about racial profiling but honestly By simply looking at statistics anyone with a marginal IQ has to be more alert when they encounter somebody in that demographic.
That is systemic racism.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:46 pm to LSUFanHouston
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What is your definition of systemic racism
When more than a few people practice racism, over a long period of time.
If that’s your definition of systemic racism then it can never be eliminated or even limited.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:46 pm to doubleb
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Society needs to go what?
Uhm... fix systemic issues.
Just like BestBanker, you are a smarter poster than this. If you want to challenge what I am saying, just do it.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:47 pm to HughsWorkPhone
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Literally anything you will give them. It’s extortion and it will not stop by making concessions
If this is true, it will backfire on them.
For some, it may be true, but I don't think that's true for all.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:47 pm to LSUFanHouston
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When more than a few people practice racism, over a long period of time.
We can’t legislate morality. I am 48 years old and the racial issues in my lifetime have drastically reduces during this time. In fact I would submit the only legit AA racism I have seen is in the liberal enclaves up North. Now I have seen racism directed at whites in the South.
This post was edited on 8/28/20 at 4:48 pm
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:47 pm to RebelExpress38
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But please continue to tell us how this is something republicans don’t take seriously.
Please point out where I said that.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:48 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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Once again you fail to provide tangible examples
I've provided several. Read the entire thread.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:49 pm to LSUFanHouston
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People like to crap on Lebron... but he is funding a school, isn't he? That's going to help... maybe a small group, but it will help those kids if the school is good enough.
I help fund an entire school system.
James giving money to fund a school is like you or I giving a buck to a panhandler.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:49 pm to doubleb
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If that’s your definition of systemic racism then it can never be eliminated or even limited.
Well that's depressing. To know we have an issue and can never find a solution.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:50 pm to LSUFanHouston
Took a shot at the “hard right of this board” but the Dems are the ones who shut down the meaningful reform you are looking for. Hope this helps.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:52 pm to ABearsFanNMS
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In fact I would submit the only legit AA racism I have seen is in the liberal enclaves up North.
I would submit that the racial issue is much worse in the liberal north. Yes.
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Now I have seen racism directed at whites in the South.
In the South, it's more people being racist in their attitudes and conversations, less direct action towards blacks.
Reality is, racial issues are much worse up north.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:53 pm to doubleb
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I help fund an entire school system.
James giving money to fund a school is like you or I giving a buck to a panhandler.
I don't know your financial situation, but I'm willing to bet he's provided more money to that school, then you have paid in school taxes for a system, on an annual basis.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:54 pm to RebelExpress38
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Took a shot at the “hard right of this board” but the Dems are the ones who shut down the meaningful reform you are looking for. Hope this helps.
The hard right of this board doesn't believe it exists.
The Dems know it exists and wants to use it as a wedge issue, an election issue. That's why they shot it down. For now.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:55 pm to LSUFanHouston
Sorry but we don’t need solutions for the things they’re rioting about which is people getting killed while resisting arrest. What we do need is criminal justice reform and solutions for black people being targeted by the police when they’re doing nothing wrong. But no one is rioting about these things for some reason. They’re dying on the wrong hill and it’s not helping their cause at all. In fact it’s probably hurting it.
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:58 pm to LSUFanHouston
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Uhm... fix systemic issues.
Just like BestBanker, you are a smarter poster than this. If you want to challenge what I am saying, just do it.
I have challenged you several times and you lead us in a circle jerk,
Your definition of systemic racism sucks. You don’t know what that is. Blacks in the 50s and 60s did. It was called Jim Crow. Thankfully that was wiped out.
European Jews in the 20s, 30s and early 40s knew what systemic racism was. Most of them died because of the Nazis.
South Africa had Apartheid, Many countries had slavery including the US.
Those are examples of systemic racism.
What we have now are individuals that are racist.
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