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When does the nation start talking about solutions?

Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:21 pm
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:21 pm
Except for the most hard-right on this board, the vast majority of Americans realize there are issues in our criminal justice system when it comes to race. They also realize the vast majority of our police officers, and others in the system, are good men and women.

So when are our politicians, athletes, actors, etc going to start actually proposing real, workable solutions? Solutions that actually both reduce crime and reduce systemic racism?

The athletes say they want to force changes. Fair enough. What are the actual changes they want? How are we going to pay for them and carry out those changes?

I'm not talking about the Antifa types or those who just want to watch the world burn. But for those who truly want change, I think they have a small window of time in which they can propose ideas and the vast majority of Americans will consider their ideas.

But if they don't start coming out with some concrete ideas, I think most Americans will start to tune them out.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:23 pm to
Do you want to suck and lick their arse (pander) ?
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21312 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:23 pm to
Talk? It’s impossible to have a conversation with the left.
Posted by Rig
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:24 pm to
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So when are our politicians, athletes, actors, etc going to start actually proposing real, workable solutions?
Never

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The athletes say they want to force changes. Fair enough. What are the actual changes they want?
They don’t know what they want. And why does their opinion matter more than anyone else? What makes them the spokesperson other than their fame for playing a sport?

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I think most Americans will start to tune them out.
This is already happening.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21912 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:24 pm to
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So when are our politicians, athletes, actors, etc going to start actually proposing real, workable solutions? Solutions that actually both reduce crime and reduce systemic racism?


When they finally decide to teach their children, and others that single motherhood is bad.
When they decide to teach their children and others not to have children out of wedlock.

When they decided to teach their children and others to take individual responsibility for their actions.
When the decided to stop blaming others for their own poor choices.


IOW... NEVER!


This post was edited on 8/28/20 at 4:27 pm
Posted by WhitewaterDawg
Tennessee
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:24 pm to
I think you should volunteer to wash their feet.
Posted by lsuguy84
CO
Member since Feb 2009
19664 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:24 pm to
The Trump administration reached out to Bron and the boys yesterday.
Posted by Redbonebandit
Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:25 pm to
You mean like criminal justice reform that Trump signed into law. You know to erase the law that lead to mass incarceration written by one Joe Biden, you know the guy who picked a corrupt former DA that put innocent black men in jail. Those the solutions you're looking for?
Posted by BestBanker
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:26 pm to
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Except for the most hard-right on this board, the vast majority of Americans realize there are issues in our criminal justice system when it comes to race.

What do you mean by this statement?
Posted by gambetti
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Member since Sep 2017
1136 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:26 pm to
You're trying to have an actual political conversation on this board, which is populated almost strictly by psychotics whose entire mental energies are put toward evading basic facts about reality?

Don't waste your time. The only thing to do on here is shitpost.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
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Member since Jul 2009
37110 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:27 pm to
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And why does their opinion matter more than anyone else? What makes them the spokesperson other than their fame for playing a sport?


Not more important or matters more, but they do have a bigger microphone than the average person.
Posted by arcalades
USA
Member since Feb 2014
19276 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:27 pm to
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the vast majority of Americans realize there are issues in our criminal justice system when it comes to race.
wrong. We have a police state problem, not a race problem

POLICE STATE

There are no solutions. There aren't many of us willing to take up arms against the govt. The only solution is to wait for the collapse of the nation. may be be a few years. may be be 100 years. IT'S GOING TO GET A LOT WORSE BEFORE IT GETS BETTER.
Posted by the808bass
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:28 pm to
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Except for the most hard-right on this board, the vast majority of Americans realize there are issues in our criminal justice system when it comes to race.


Eh. The “issues” are mostly overstated or distorted.

There are issues with our criminal justice system. But I’m not sure the cure wouldn’t be worse than the problem.
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37110 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:28 pm to
quote:

When they finally decide to teach their children, and others that single motherhood is bad.
When they decide to teach their children and others not to have children out of wedlock.

When they decided to teach their children and others to take individual responsibility for their actions.
When the decided to stop blaming others for their own poor choices.


This needs to happen.

Even if it did, we would still have issues with small batches of racism in our system.
Posted by 93and99
Dayton , Oh / Allentown , Pa
Member since Dec 2018
14400 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:28 pm to
Hey Loser !

Where did your threads go ?
Posted by Soggymoss
Member since Aug 2018
14316 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:28 pm to
The problems are not race driven. If that were the case then police killings would happen in a lopsided proportion in comparison to the crime rate, yet it all lines up perfectly. In fact, out of all killings in the U.S. you MAY be able to pin at most .2-5% of them on race being a factor.

Now there is a need for change, and that change starts in the communities. Neighborhoods holding their own accountable and not withholding information from police. States relaxing laws and giving more law abiding citizens the right to defend themselves AND their property. Thats just the start.
This post was edited on 8/28/20 at 4:30 pm
Posted by doubleb
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Member since Aug 2006
36053 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:29 pm to
What is your definition of systemic racism and what laws should we remove or pass to eliminate it?
Posted by Nobelium
Member since May 2018
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Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:29 pm to
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This post was edited on 4/16/21 at 10:24 am
Posted by LSUFanHouston
NOLA
Member since Jul 2009
37110 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:29 pm to
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You mean like criminal justice reform that Trump signed into law. You know to erase the law that lead to mass incarceration written by one Joe Biden, you know the guy who picked a corrupt former DA that put innocent black men in jail. Those the solutions you're looking for?


That's my point. The only solutions are coming from the people that they think are the problem, while they don't promote any solutions of their own.

It's insane.
Posted by Magician2
Member since Oct 2015
14553 posts
Posted on 8/28/20 at 4:29 pm to
quote:


Except for the most hard-right on this board, the vast majority of Americans realize there are issues in our criminal justice system when it comes to race. They also realize the vast majority of our police officers, and others in the system, are good men and women.

So when are our politicians, athletes, actors, etc going to start actually proposing real, workable solutions? Solutions that actually both reduce crime and reduce systemic racism?

The athletes say they want to force changes. Fair enough. What are the actual changes they want? How are we going to pay for them and carry out those changes?

I'm not talking about the Antifa types or those who just want to watch the world burn. But for those who truly want change, I think they have a small window of time in which they can propose ideas and the vast majority of Americans will consider their ideas.

But if they don't start coming out with some concrete ideas, I think most Americans will start to tune them out.


The democrats didn't even take up Tim Scott's bill to the floor to be debated upon in the House. All of it was criminal justice reform. That tells me all I need to know.
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