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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?

Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:08 pm to
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:08 pm to
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If you leave the 6 week old baby in a room by itself it will die.


Another person who doesn't know what "viable" means in this context!
Posted by VoxDawg
Glory, Glory
Member since Sep 2012
74838 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:08 pm to
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Usually it's a racial slur, some kind of psychotic rant, or in this thread more than likely a graphic picture of a dead baby.


This is something that the aborto-centrist fanatics detest when they encounter pro-life demonstrators. When they're faced to acknowledge the inherent humanity of aborted remains, it undermines their decades-old "clump of cells" argument.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:08 pm to
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The state didn't put the baby in the woman.


In a sense it did,


You read it here folks!

This is the monumental intellect we're dealing with that is BamaAtl! :rotflmao:

NOW, me not letting you kill your baby places responsibility upon me for the fact YOU put it in there in the first fricking place!!
Posted by Jbird
In Bidenville with EthanL
Member since Oct 2012
83556 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:08 pm to
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Then it has bodily autonomy


As does the pregnant woman.

But only one is murdered.
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:08 pm to
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In a sense it did, by not properly equipping her with the knowledge and tools to prevent pregnancy


Holy shite dude. Where in America is there a woman who doesn't understand how to properly prevent pregnancy? Seriously. Link me to where that exists. Birth control is available everywhere from Walgreens to grocery stores to gas stations to free clinics.

Or you could just not have sex.

Or you could ask your doctor about one of the hundred birth control devices constantly on commercials all over TV.

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not properly allowing for a situation in which raising a child would be beneficial.



So you believe that it is the state's job to ensure that every single citizen in the entire United States at any point in time has the ability to beneficially raise a child in an ideal situation?

Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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Why are you treating a fetus as simply part of a woman’s body?


Because until a certain point the fetus cannot survive without the woman's body. What would you call that scenario?
Posted by ShoeBang
Member since May 2012
21650 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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That's a different question then where the cutoff for safe and legal abortions should be.


So you are tacitly acknowledging that you inherently know that the life cycle of humans begins at conception by dodging the question, otherwise you would have a logical explanation. That acknowledgment then leads to your argument of when it is "safe" - for who? Not for the baby (which you acknowledge is a baby remember?).

For the mother? Ok great. She gets to decide when the life cycle of the fetus inside her ends? Why? Who gives her that right? It isn't the constitution, because the constitution protects the right to life, which you have, in this thread, acknowledged exists within the mother.

Do you know what they call the action of ending someone else's life cycle against their will? I bet you know.

Debate the legality of it all you want, however I would advise you to look into the myriad of things that used to be "legal" in this country and consider them before using the "it's legal" shield.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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As does the pregnant woman.

Yep.

We all have it.

That's why the state won't let one of us kill another to save ourselves.

Thanks for playing.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
Mission Viejo, CA
Member since Mar 2012
73073 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
Your analogy is the most intellectually dishonest thing I have ever seen.

Do you view laws against murder as an infringement on somebody’s bodily autonomy?

It restricts the right of somebody to do something to someone else.
Posted by LSU Patrick
Member since Jan 2009
76753 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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But only one is murdered.


And the most innocent of the two at that.
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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I'm willing to bet you'd die on the hill for the 3rd trimester abortion on demand laws


Provided we make exceptions for rape/incest/mother's health/incompatibility with life I have no problem with third-trimester bans.

But because I'm not some Christian militant ready to kill me some abortion providers, on this board I'm a radical.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14997 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:09 pm to
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BamaAtl


So are you actually a doctor? If you are which school did you go to? I want to make sure I never have a doctor that went to the same school as you.
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Because until a certain point the fetus cannot survive without the woman's body. What would you call that scenario?

Motherhood
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
21057 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:10 pm to
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Another person who doesn't know what "viable" means in this context!

Define it.
Posted by redfishfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2015
5334 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:10 pm to
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In a sense it did, by not properly equipping her with the knowledge and tools to prevent pregnancy and not properly allowing for a situation in which raising a child would be beneficial.


And we finally get to the meat and potatoes of it. You don't like being responsible for their mistakes and like to blame others. Thanks for that beautiful response.
Posted by DemonKA3268
Parts Unknown
Member since Oct 2015
21095 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:10 pm to
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You'd do better learning what it means instead of trying to get it through osmosis, little buddy!
Awww, the little coward thinks she's cute. Keep saying it, doesn't help your case, baby killer
Posted by BamaAtl
South of North
Member since Dec 2009
22253 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:10 pm to
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but stupid people often let pride prevent them from just acknowledging "whoops".


Yeah, who would misinterpret an analogy for 20 pages then later claim it was intentional...oh..you?
Posted by ShortyRob
Member since Oct 2008
82116 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
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Provided we make exceptions for rape/incest/mother's health/incompatibility with life I have no problem with third-trimester bans.

Well shite

That pretty much guts your whole thread.

Why does the woman suddenly lose "bodily autonomy" in the last 3 months?
Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
41225 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
She’s not going to answer
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14997 posts
Posted on 5/16/19 at 1:11 pm to
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rape/incest/mother's health/incompatibility with life


what the frick is "incompatibility with life"?

You continue to prove that you are a piece of shite
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