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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:35 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:35 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Wow, you found ONE article, ONE. That means it must be true.
A scientific journal article on viability of extremely pre-term babies, and a definition of bodily autonomy, are not opinion pieces little buddy.
You truly are pathetic. One freaking article, what a dumbarse!! Who gives a crap about you screaming "bodily autonomy" over and over. It's killing a baby, period. You are too obtuse for life.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:35 pm to BamaAtl
quote:I apply bodily autonomy to the baby too.
Found another one who, 30 pages in, still doesn't understand the concept of bodily autonomy.
That you don't is a you problem
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:35 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
The state won't let me kill you for your kidney.
Why won't the state force me to give you my kidney, if you need it to live?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:35 pm to BamaAtl
Because there are other options to keep people alive. You know, like science
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:35 pm to BamaAtl
quote:For the same reason it won't let me kill you for it
Why won't the state force me to give you my kidney, if you need it to live?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:36 pm to BamaAtl
Her co-workers be thinking' "Oh God, this stupid b!tch and her/his/zhits circular arguments and refusal to admit when she's wrong is wearing me out....Plus she makes us all look bad by claiming what we do is charity work...."
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:36 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
The party of small government now wants the government to interfere in an individual's medical decisions.
Wow
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:37 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Just like we find it fascinating that you have no point other than you are okay with killing babies. Lol, bless your heart. So brave
It's always fascinating how some of you can continue arguing these and have no idea what the discussion is even about.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:37 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Why won't the state force me to give you my kidney, if you need it to live?
Because you have property rights over your kidney.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:37 pm to DemonKA3268
quote:Dumb bitch is gonna go 50 pages acting like pretending the baby doesn't exist means it doesn't exist.
Just like we find it fascinating that you have no point other than you are okay with killing babies. Lol, bless your heart. So brave
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:38 pm to SlowFlowPro
quote:
"to end the pregnancy" very well may be murder
By our definition of murder it very clearly isn't.
quote:
you're trying to argue that since women have to carry baby humans, they should be given an exception to the regulations of murder
I'm trying to argue that everyone, including pregnant women, have a right to bodily autonomy. Being pregnant doesn't magically remove that right.
And I'm using an analogy of a forced kidney donation as an example to demonstrate a scenario in which you don't support using the power of the state to violate bodily autonomy to save a life. NOT ONE of you said you'd be cool with the state demanding everyone who can donate a kidney.
quote:
a baby human is somehow part of the mother's body
Of course it is - it cannot physically survive without the mother. This is not true post-birth, as babies can survive with any anonymous caretaker. During pregnancy that task falls to one AND ONLY ONE individual, and cannot be transferred to another.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:39 pm to ShortyRob
quote:The dumbassery is strong with that one, that's for sure.
Dumb bitch is gonna go 50 pages acting like pretending the baby doesn't exist means it doesn't exist.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:39 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Actually, you are arguing that everyone EXCEPT FOR BABIES have a right to bodily autonomy.
I'm trying to argue that everyone, including pregnant women, have a right to bodily autonomy. Being pregnant doesn't magically remove that right.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:39 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
Of course it is - it cannot physically survive without the mother. This is not true post-birth, as babies can survive with any anonymous caretaker. During pregnancy that task falls to one AND ONLY ONE individual, and cannot be transferred to another.
So it should be killed then? Answer this question. What species is a "fetus".
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:39 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
The person being forced to give up their kidney IN YOUR STUPID ANALOGY is the BABY
No, the person being forced to give up their kidney is the pregnant woman. Either the state violates their bodily autonomy to save another human life, or they don't.
In my analogy, the kidney RECIPIENT is the fetus. Who has a right to live but not at the expense of sacrificing another human's right to choose what to do with their body.
Jesus Christ we're 30 pages in and you misunderstood the analogy THAT BADLY?! HOLY shite
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:40 pm to BamaAtl
I care that the work that my body does is forced to pay for others bad decisions.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:40 pm to ShortyRob
quote:
EXCEPT FOR BABIES
BamaAlt called them parasites
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:40 pm to BamaAtl
quote:The state didn't put the baby in the woman.
And I'm using an analogy of a forced kidney donation as an example to demonstrate a scenario in which you don't support using the power of the state to violate bodily autonomy to save a life. NOT ONE of you said you'd be cool with the state demanding everyone who can donate a kidney.
Go study how analogies work.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:41 pm to VoxDawg
quote:
But since you want to talk about IVF in framed in an abortion discussion, show the me the couple who would pay $10-20k for the mere CHANCE at getting pregnant that would even jokingly refer to voluntarily aborting a baby because of mere inconvenience.
If the mother's health was at great risk (even not up to death), or if the child was incompatible with life, they may so choose.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:41 pm to BamaAtl
Is the perfect night for you, a bag of popcorn and a live stream of an abortion?
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