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re: When did Republicans stop caring about bodily autonomy?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:41 pm to BamaAtl
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:41 pm to BamaAtl
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The state is forcing them not to use science to end the pregnancy if they so choose. That's the state forcing them to carry babies.
No, they're dealing with the consequences that (again in over 95% of the cases) they voluntarily placed themselves in. You want sexual freedom with zero consequences and responsibilities.
Every day, our society is dealing with the end result of when biological fathers step out on accepting their role/responsibility in creating a human life. That's the long game on ignoring those consequences. Modern child sacrifice for the sake of convenience is the more immediate ill of society.
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Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:42 pm to BamaAtl
quote:Which makes no sense.
No, the person being forced to give up their kidney is the pregnant woman.
The pregnant woman is the one looking to be made "better" by eliminating the baby.
Your analogy is retarded.
quote:I understood that you can't write analogies that make any friggin sense because for your analogy to work.......the state would have to have put the baby IN the woman
Jesus Christ we're 30 pages in and you misunderstood the analogy THAT BADLY?! HOLY shite
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:42 pm to SlowFlowPro
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well what other exceptions for murder laws do you propose?
What other choices are either 'murder' or violating another's bodily autonomy?
(please don't be like the rest of them and either pretend not to know what the term means, or truly not - if you don't understand, just move to the next post)
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:43 pm to BamaAtl
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Jesus Christ we're 30 pages in and you misunderstood the analogy THAT BADLY?! HOLY shite
You should really think before you speak. You are the only one on here that misunderstands. You haven't had one person agree with you and you want to say that everyone is wrong. That's rich. So brave
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:43 pm to DemonKA3268
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Wow, you found ONE article, ONE.
..how many articles do you think exist that say a 6-week old fetus is compatible with life outside the womb?
I can't magic up a negative for you, little buddy.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:43 pm to BamaAtl
quote:We understand what the terms mean. You just want to pretend the baby doesn't exist.
(please don't be like the rest of them and either pretend not to know what the term means, or truly not - if you don't understand, just move to the next post)
We don't
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:43 pm to BamaAtl
quote:
If the mother's health was at great risk
the problem is you include the woman's boobs sagging after the pregnancy as a risk the woman's health.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:43 pm to BamaAtl
Awww...is poor BamaATL melting over governmental overreach?
Oh the fricking irony.
Oh the fricking irony.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:43 pm to ShortyRob
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I apply bodily autonomy to the baby too.
They're welcome to try and live on their own outside the womb. Let's see how that works for them at 6 weeks.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:44 pm to ShortyRob
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Why won't the state force me to give you my kidney, if you need it to live?
For the same reason it won't let me kill you for it
Not the same reason.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:44 pm to BeeFense5
Has anyone asked the obvious question: Does BamaAxis have any children?
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:44 pm to BamaAtl
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I'm trying to argue that everyone, including pregnant women, have a right to bodily autonomy. Being pregnant doesn't magically remove that right.
But being in-utero does? I mean that is your argument right?
quote:
Of course it is - it cannot physically survive without the mother.
You acknowledged it is a baby right here, by the way. Remember that when you try to not call it murder, ok?
Pregnancy can ONLY be ended by ending an individual existence that has already begun its journey - which starts at conception and ends in death. You cannot debate that with anything even resembling scientific or even reasonable. The life cycle, scientifically starts at conception and ends at death. Now if you want to pretend it starts somewhere else between conception and death, have at it, but don't expect any honest, logical person to agree with you.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:44 pm to BamaAtl
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What other choices are either 'murder' or violating another's bodily autonomy?
(please don't be like the rest of them and either pretend not to know what the term means, or truly not - if you don't understand, just move to the next post)
Your arrogant attitude as if you are better than everyone is honestly reason #1 people hate you on here.
Newsflash, you aren’t as smart as you think you are and surely shouldn’t be looking down at anyone.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:44 pm to BamaAtl
Bama, you kidney example makes little sense. Protecting someone’s “right” does NOT mean you compel someone to do something. It means you restrict what people are allowed to do. That is a huge difference.
The fifth amendment clearly states all persons have a right to life. So, why don’t we force people to give blood and organs? Because that is compulsion. A right to life means the govt nor citizens are allowed to take it.
We have a right to bear arms. That doesn’t mean we force people to own weapons.
We have a right to freedom of the press. That doesn’t mean we force people to read newspapers.
Laws against abortion do not force anyone to do anything. They restrict what is allowed to be done on a person.
The fifth amendment clearly states all persons have a right to life. So, why don’t we force people to give blood and organs? Because that is compulsion. A right to life means the govt nor citizens are allowed to take it.
We have a right to bear arms. That doesn’t mean we force people to own weapons.
We have a right to freedom of the press. That doesn’t mean we force people to read newspapers.
Laws against abortion do not force anyone to do anything. They restrict what is allowed to be done on a person.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:45 pm to ShortyRob
You have the patience of Job to argue with a zealot that believes she is right about everything.
This post was edited on 5/16/19 at 12:47 pm
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:45 pm to ShortyRob
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Actually, you are arguing that everyone EXCEPT FOR BABIES have a right to bodily autonomy.
That fetus is more than welcome to try out its bodily autonomy outside of the womb at 6 weeks. Good luck!
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:45 pm to BamaAtl
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They're welcome to try and live on their own outside the womb. Let's see how that works for them at 6 weeks.
LOL
6 weeks
Says the person OK with it all the way up until womb exit
And, again, they can't survive the day after they're born either. I guess they just have to suck it up if mom says "frick it"
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:46 pm to roadGator
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believes she is right about everything.
This is truly the problem. Every topic she acts like she is an authority on and insults everyone else.
Posted on 5/16/19 at 12:46 pm to oogabooga68
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Has anyone asked the obvious question: Does BamaAxis have any children?
That lived?
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