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re: When did being a moderate become so frowned upon?

Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:27 pm to
Posted by DavidTheGnome
Monroe
Member since Apr 2015
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:27 pm to
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I assume this is directed at liberals and Democrats since moderation is part of conservative philosophy, thinking and lifestyle, hence the root word "conserve"


Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:30 pm to
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The wall hasn't even happened yet. Likely never will. Obama also had a travel ban. Clinton cut regulations in '99 (ending Glass- Stegall) which many attribute to the financial crash in '07.


Apples to oranges. Obama's travel ban and bill Clinton ending Glass Stegall. Obama was all talk and accomplished nothing consistent. Had a "travel ban", but ended up allowing more extremists free cover and "get out of jail cards". Clinton working to the tune of wall street "contributors", imo. That was then..this is now.

Just to clarify your position. Are you claiming that Trump is no different than Obama or Clinton as far as advocating for left wing policies and the direction of the country?
Posted by Groovie
San Diego,California
Member since Aug 2013
460 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:32 pm to
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Moderate is a cloak for liberals and no one buys that bullshite.

I voted for Trump. I just refuse to think the same way for an entire lifetime or white knight for a certain political party.
Posted by CptBengal
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Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:34 pm to
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I've never seen a self proclaimed moderate on this board in all my years here that wasn't a liberal.

Moderate is a cloak for liberals and no one buys that bullshite.




Bingo.

They are a'' "moderate" but espouse the entire lib playbook of bad ideas.

it's a joke tbh. Now they're mad because everyone sees through their little "story" and they're "upset"
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
32378 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:37 pm to
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That mindset is why being a "moderate" is frowned upon.

I disagree. The reason being a "moderate" is frowned on, is because, far too often, it is simply a con job to cover what he/she actually stand for...a finger in the wind to gauge what will make their own road easier to travel..plausible deniability for any policy that goes bad. How, exactly, does one "moderate" their claimed principles?
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:38 pm to
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Its a mask for being an unprincipled opportunist. Not really any more complicated than that.

Using your logic, then being a conservative also means being an unprincipled opportunist since there is no conservative "standard" set by anyone. Ask two conservatives to set the government's role in society and you'll likely get two different results in some areas.

You're part of the problem that OP speaks of since you either view someone as being with you or, as you put it, an unprincipled opportunist.
Posted by UHTiger
Member since Jan 2007
5231 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:39 pm to
Welcome to the alt-right poli board where moderate beilefs are considered liberal. Their alt right beliefs are literally a social disorder
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:41 pm to
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Because the divide between liberal and conservative is more pronounced than ever, so if you haven't figured out which side is to blame for the decimation of our country, then you aren't paying attention and are considered to have an uninformed, worthless opinion.

No it's not. Many conservatives are split on some issues. Main examples are global warming, education, and net neutrality.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:42 pm to
What does a "moderate" stand for?
Posted by CptBengal
BR Baby
Member since Dec 2007
71661 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:42 pm to
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Welcome to the alt-right poli board where moderate beilefs are considered liberal

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UHTiger





you're full on antifa prog filth.
Posted by Macbeth
Member since Jun 2017
164 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:42 pm to
This place is a trash fire. They ridicule the far left while never even considering far right policies could be just as harmful as far left.
Posted by Texas Weazel
Louisiana is a shithole
Member since Oct 2016
8946 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:44 pm to
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I've never seen a self proclaimed moderate on this board in all my years here that wasn't a liberal.

Hence, the OPs point. If you don't agree with it, it's liberal nonsense in your mind.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
82228 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:44 pm to
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This place is a trash fire.


you can leave any time you like
Posted by Macbeth
Member since Jun 2017
164 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:46 pm to
Someone needs to continue to tell you you are wrong.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
82228 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:48 pm to
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Someone needs to continue to tell you you are wrong.


It's been done for years.

I don't think anyone's mind has ever been changed.
Posted by Ebbandflow
Member since Aug 2010
13457 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:48 pm to
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When did being a moderate become so frowned upon?


When Hillary lost
Posted by RuLSU
Chicago, IL
Member since Nov 2007
8131 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:49 pm to
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When did being a moderate become so frowned upon?

So long as people are constantly fighting each other, they're too busy engaging in petty squabbles to start working together towards common goals.

I'd bet 80% of America would vote to curb "legal" corruption in Washington DC, but 80% of America isn't given that option, since it seems like 30% is perpetually arguing with another 30%.

Media makes money on controversy, and points of contention are controversial. That certainly doesn't help.
Posted by Duke
Dillon, CO
Member since Jan 2008
36494 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:53 pm to
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How, exactly, does one "moderate" their claimed principles?


They don't moderate their principles, their principles lead them to moderated solutions.
Posted by Scoop
RIP Scoop
Member since Sep 2005
44583 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:54 pm to
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Scoop

What does it feel like to have such hate in you?



Macbeth, what does it feel like to have 61 posts and presume to be in a position to draw conclusions about someone that has been posting here for 12 years?

Silly frick.
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
26419 posts
Posted on 6/11/17 at 6:54 pm to
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moderation is part of conservative philosophy,



Moderates turned into the progressives... they had no values and were able to pick and choose what they support. Now we're stuck with progs who dont have a clue about much of anything.
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