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re: What's Your Covid Jab Opinion?
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:29 am to lsupride87
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The Covid vaccine operations is one of the most impressive feats by any sitting president ever and not a single one besides Trump could have pulled it off and he saved numerous lives because of it
The Dems hijacked it with mandates and trumps most ardent supporters fell deep into their trap and it actually caused them to ruthlessly attack the very accomplishment Trump created
I wasn't trapped into my vehement opposition to the experimental jabs for my family and me. I followed the science, listened to my physician, and concluded that the idea of an effective (actual) vaccine for a little understood virus was preposterous.
I have no doubt that President Trump was acting in what he thought were the best interests of Americans. He got horrible advice.
Do you think ANYONE voted for Trump based on Operation Warp Speed? I see CONCLUSIONS that the jabs saved lives, but I haven't seen any real science to support that proposition.
This post was edited on 1/15/25 at 9:31 am
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Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:33 am to IvoryBillMatt
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see CONCLUSIONS that the jabs saved lives, but I haven't seen any real science to support that proposition.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:37 am to Penrod
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It showed a substantial lowering of hospitalization in the vaccine cohorts relative to the unvaccinated.
Thanks for taking the time to research and post. I am already leery of defining cohorts. As you probably know, the gold standard, double-blind randomized controlled trials, have never been used to accurately assess the efficacy of ANY vaccines---much less those designed to mitigate (not stop) a poorly understood (if it indeed exists) virus.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:40 am to IvoryBillMatt
There have been placebo-controlled vaccine trials.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:46 am to lsupride87
Death rates from WHAT? These studies are inherently flawed because their terms are so poorly defined.
How do you establish death FROM Covid-19 versus death WITH Covid-19? How was the presence of Covid-19 even established?
As you might know, Kary Mullis, the Nobel Prize winning inventor of the PCR process, said that PCR was useless for diagnosing disease.
How do you establish death FROM Covid-19 versus death WITH Covid-19? How was the presence of Covid-19 even established?
As you might know, Kary Mullis, the Nobel Prize winning inventor of the PCR process, said that PCR was useless for diagnosing disease.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:47 am to IvoryBillMatt
Doctors determine cause of death every day and nobody blinks an eye.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:48 am to TigerDoc
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Doctors determine cause of death every day and nobody blinks an eye.
Are they financially incentivized to report a particular cause of death every day?
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:48 am to lsupride87
Yeah, they were scaring the shite out of people who at the first sniffle ran to be tested for a nonexistent virus at hospitals. If positive with the bs tests, they were isolated, sedated and fkn murdered for profit. Remember how the stage was set and incentivized. They, all who went along knowing damn well they were killing people, should all get the death pentalty for their parts. Unvaccinated were dying....my arse, they were murdered.
This post was edited on 1/15/25 at 9:49 am
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:50 am to Flats
What's the financial incentive you think has caused false increased reporting of deaths?
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:50 am to TigerDoc
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There have been placebo-controlled vaccine trials.
Thanks! That is genuinely news to me. I would really appreciate a link.
If there HAVE been placebo-controlled vaccine trials, why wasn't the gold standard followed for Covid-19 therapeutics (NO ONE still claims the jabs stop transmission, do they???...which is what the vast majority of Americans were led to believe regarding the Covid-19 "vaccines").
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:51 am to FizzyPop
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For elderly and co morbid individuals, sure why not. But for young healthy people it was poison, especially the booster aspect of it. Should have never been mandated by the Left.
This is my take as well.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:52 am to TigerDoc
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Doctors determine cause of death every day and nobody blinks an eye.
But, other than Covid-19, have they been influenced to determine a particular cause of death?
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:57 am to IvoryBillMatt
Here's a double-blind placebo-controlled pertussis trial. You can find these easily by googling.
I don't know why Pfizer and Moderna chose their study designs, but that info is probably out there.
LINK
I don't know why Pfizer and Moderna chose their study designs, but that info is probably out there.
LINK
Posted on 1/15/25 at 9:58 am to TigerDoc
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Doctors determine cause of death every day and nobody blinks an eye.
Often without ever seeing the patient or body.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:00 am to TigerDoc
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What's the financial incentive you think has caused false increased reporting of deaths?
The one that paid them, not technically for reporting a covid death, but for treating covid. "Hey, that homeless guy who just ingested enough fentanyl to kill a mule was coughing, I bet he has covid, let's treat him for covid before he dies."
Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:05 am to IvoryBillMatt
Big pharma can't make anything that is safe.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:07 am to Flats
I don't think they were many people acutely coding from opioid overdoses given emergent Paxlovid, baw. But if someone comes into the ER during a pandemic with cough, they should be tested for the pandemic respiratory disease and treated for it if they survive their OD, right?
Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:10 am to TigerDoc
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Doctors determine cause of death every day and nobody blinks an eye.
Here's an excellent discussion by Dr. Scott Jensen on the unprecedented push to lable something as a "primary cause of death" rather than just a possible contributing factor. Not surprisingly, that "something," was Covid-19.
Posted on 1/15/25 at 10:11 am to IvoryBillMatt
It probably provided some limited protection for the most vulnerable until the inevitable changes in the virus.
Once the virus mutated, the vaccine efficacy dropped well below the 50% threshold, especially at 3-6 mos. post vaccination.
Once the virus mutated, the vaccine efficacy dropped well below the 50% threshold, especially at 3-6 mos. post vaccination.
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