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What’s the difference between Progressivism & Socialism?

Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:19 am
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:19 am
Semantics?
Posted by Nguyener
Kame House
Member since Mar 2013
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Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:21 am to
Socialism is the means of production and wealth controlled by the government.

Progressivism is the criminalization and persecution of eveyone who does not think, act, and vote the way the government deems appropriate.

Socialism is an economic system. Progressivism is the government means of implementing that system.

They are the left and right hands of the devil.
This post was edited on 2/19/19 at 11:24 am
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21908 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:21 am to
quote:

What’s the difference between Progressivism & Socialism?


Progressives will do socialism right...

This time!
Posted by jrodLSUke
Premium
Member since Jan 2011
22178 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:22 am to
Socialist re-branded to liberals. Then re-branded again to progressives. And now we are getting Democrat Socialists. There is no difference.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
260630 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:22 am to
Progressivism is the highway one takes to arrive at Socialism...
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14488 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Progressivism is the highway one takes to arrive at Socialism...


This was my thinking as well.
Pre-socialism
Posted by Centinel
Idaho
Member since Sep 2016
43337 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:24 am to
quote:

Progressivism is the highway one takes to arrive at Socialism...



This.

Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112489 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:26 am to
When a word gets a bad rap they change the word. The USSR ruined the word socialism for the left so they went to 'liberal.' The word 'liberal' has come to mean POS commie bastard moron. Therefore, liberals switched to 'progressive'. The word 'progressive' will someday mean POS commie bastard moron. Then, they will change to something new.

It's the same reason they changed 'global warming' to 'climate change' when winter kept getting cold like it always does.
Posted by Schmelly
Member since Jan 2014
14488 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:27 am to
Lol. He’s right you know
Posted by Ten Bears
Florida
Member since Oct 2018
3286 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:28 am to
quote:

The USSR ruined the word socialism for the left so they went to 'liberal.' The word 'liberal' has come to mean POS commie bastard moron. Therefore, liberals switched to 'progressive'. The word 'progressive' will someday mean POS commie bastard moron.


You forgot the "new democrat" and "3rd way" that Clinton initiated.
Posted by Turbeauxdog
Member since Aug 2004
23193 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:29 am to
Honesty
Posted by Wednesday
Member since Aug 2017
15420 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:30 am to
quote:

Socialism is the means of production and wealth controlled by the government. Progressivism is the criminalization and persecution of eveyone who does not think, act, and vote the way the government deems appropriate. Socialism is an economic system. Progressivism is the government means of implementing that system. They are the left and right hands of the devil.




This is perfection.
Posted by Loserman
Member since Sep 2007
21908 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:33 am to
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When a word gets a bad rap they change the word


It is more than that.

They change the meaning to obfuscate and expand appeal and usage.

An example...

During WW1 some soldiers succumbed to Shell Shock.

By WW2 they changed the term to Battle Fatigue, for the condition, and expanded it to include people with basic cowardice.

Now the term has become PTSD. It now includes all snowflakes.
Posted by infantry1026
Louisiana
Member since Jan 2010
6040 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 11:50 am to
quote:

Socialism is the means of production and wealth controlled by the government.

Progressivism is the criminalization and persecution of eveyone who does not think, act, and vote the way the government deems appropriate.

Socialism is an economic system. Progressivism is the government means of implementing that system.

They are the left and right hands of the devil


This! /thread
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19069 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:10 pm to
Progressives as defined by Saul Alinsky are only for power. Alinsky’s famous quote was “the issue is never the issue. The issue is always Power.”
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
112489 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

You forgot the "new democrat" and "3rd way" that Clinton initiated.


Well, the 3rd way was actually a strategy later called triangulation. It goes like this:

1. Clinton proposes free everything for everybody.
2. The GOP Congress won't pass it.
3. As a result of that defeat the economy improves.

Clinton can then claim:
To the liberals: 'Hey, I tried to give you free stuff but the mean old republicans stopped it.'
To the public: 'Hey, the economy has been great due to my sound policies.'
Posted by i am dan
NC
Member since Aug 2011
24747 posts
Posted on 2/19/19 at 1:05 pm to
quote:

What’s the difference between Progressivism & Socialism?


Progressivism is the precursor.
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