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re: Whatever happened to the libertarians on this board?

Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
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the debilitating consequences of forcing different cultures to live in a single society
lol moving next door to someone is force y'all snek libertarians are a trip
Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
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Not sure how often you check LewRockwell's site... (if you ever did.)
He's never heard of it I'm sure


Posted by MrCarton
Paradise Valley, MT
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:02 pm to
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lol moving next door to someone is force y'all snek libertarians are a trip


Straw manning me already? Ohhh lawd
Posted by Kentucker
Rabbit Hash, KY
Member since Apr 2013
20055 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:03 pm to
The election of 2016 basically killed Libertarianism in this country. It was the ideal scenario for a third party to gain followers. The Republican and Democrat candidates were the two worst in history and Americans seemed ready to welcome a third option.

Then this happened:







Even Trump is smarter than this clown.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:03 pm to
Tell me who's "forcing" different cultures to live next to each other here in Houston
Posted by kingbob
Sorrento, LA
Member since Nov 2010
70417 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:03 pm to
The problem is that we give economic incentives for people to come here and then wag our fingers at them when they do. It’s like getting all bent out of shape when someone steals your ferrari when you left it unlocked with the windows down and the keys in the ignition.

Most of the issues caused by illegal immigrants stem from:
1. Not contributing to income/payroll taxes while utilizing infrastructure and entitlementa funded by these taxes
2. Downward wage pressure by working for less than prevailing wage without proper licensees, workman’s comp, bonding, insurance, etc.

The solutions are simple:
1. Switch to a FAIR Tax system
2. End all entitlements at the federal level
3. Either:
a. start enforcing wage laws and occupational licensing requirements more effectively
b. Eliminate the wage and licensing requirements for everyone to negate the illegal advantage.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:03 pm to
It’s past my bedtime, but I have a feeling this thread will be a fun read tomorrow morning
Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56694 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:04 pm to
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lol moving next door to someone is force y'all snek libertarians are a trip



As you well know, a libertarian governing system is only possible in a (mostly) homogenous society that accepts the norms and values of libertarianism. So, basically, we can have some Jews and a bunch of Anglos.
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:04 pm to
Some libertarians refuse to read it for whatever reason, so I dunno...
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:05 pm to
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As you well know, a libertarian governing system is only possible in a (mostly) homogenous society
Pretty impressive to generalize from a sample size of zero
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:05 pm to
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Tell me who's "forcing" different cultures to live next to each other here in Houston

Houston is pretty segregated
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:05 pm to
2live crew isn’t worried about the Christian Right censoring their shite, they’re worried about progs

Posted by HempHead
Big Sky Country
Member since Mar 2011
56694 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:06 pm to
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Pretty impressive to generalize from a sample size of zero



With a sample size of zero, it is necessary to generalize.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:06 pm to
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Houston is pretty segregated
So no one is actually forcing the thing that was claimed to be forced! Glad we cleared that up
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:08 pm to
The probable most libertarian society in recent history was probably the North some time in the late 1700s or early 1800s, which was definitely very homogeneous.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:09 pm to
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The solutions are simple:
1. Switch to a FAIR Tax system
2. End all entitlements at the federal level
3. Either:
a. start enforcing wage laws and occupational licensing requirements more effectively
b. Eliminate the wage and licensing requirements for everyone to negate the illegal advantage.


I don’t disagree but this is a fairy tale. I have a better chance of nailing Cindy Crawford
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
138689 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:09 pm to
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There is a distinction between libertarianism and anarchism.
quote:

Anarcho-capitalists
Anarchism and Anarcho-capitalism are different entities.

However, to your point there is wide variance amongst Anarcho-capitalists regarding national borders. The more common position would include reduced national presence along with open borders, while personal property borders would be considered sacrosanct.
Posted by Iosh
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Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:09 pm to
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The probable most libertarian society in recent history was probably the North
T R I G G E R E D
Posted by Tiger70503
Lafayette
Member since Nov 2017
409 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:11 pm to
They traded in those principles and Rand Paul signs for Trump
Posted by Collegedropout
Where Northern Mexico meets Dixie
Member since May 2017
5202 posts
Posted on 12/6/17 at 11:12 pm to
When the developers of some Houston neighborhoods developed them it was agreed that nobody would allow some minorities in. That is their right. Once LBJ happened that was illegal so they had to allow minorities in. So the guy who said that people are forced to live with people IS right (not quite sure what your argument was about, so if this is irrelevant then just ignore it).
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