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Posted on 12/7/17 at 11:59 am to Iosh
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That doesn't give me recourse if my neighbor wants to sell their house to an immigrant.
You have to move to a neighborhood that was set up like that. It will be hard to go back, but before the 1960s many neighborhoods had those stipulations.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 12:01 pm
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:00 pm to Green Chili Tiger
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There has been, and still is, a fairly large group of posters that agree with some libertarian tenets but almost none that agree with everything.
There are 100s of issues out there. There are no libertarians who agree with each other on all 100. If there are, then 'REAL' libertarians could hold a convention in a phone booth.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:01 pm to Green Chili Tiger
One thing almost all libertarians can generally agree on is that the Libertarian Party's definition of libertarian is not right. 
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:02 pm to Green Chili Tiger
quote:
You would be hard pressed to name a large number of posters (past or present) that agrees with every one of the principles listed above.
Well sure, but the LP is moronic.
I can say from personal experience that there used to be enough Ancaps on this board to give me shite for being a Minarchist
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:03 pm to Joshjrn
quote:
I can say from personal experience that there used to be enough Ancaps on this board to give me shite for being a Minarchist
What's wrong with being a Minarchist?
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:04 pm to Zach
quote:
Libertarians are not for open borders.
How many libertarians do you know? I would guess most "libertarians" would say I am not one because I don't support open borders.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:05 pm to Collegedropout
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:06 pm to Joshjrn
Minarchism didn't work for America, it will never work. You're not even a real libertarian.
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Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:06 pm to Salmon
quote:False.
When Trump stated that he would give exemptions to all "minority" religions from those countries, they became so
But by all means, let's test the hypothesis.
You claim Trump was banning Muslim immigration.
Here is a list of countries with the largest Muslim populations.
Only two were caught in the ban.
Indonesia 225,000,000 Muslims -- No ban
Pakistan 204,194,370 Muslims -- No ban
India 189,000,000 Muslims -- No ban
Bangladesh 148,607,000 Muslims -- No ban
Nigeria 93,839,000 Muslims -- No ban
Iran 80,750,000 Muslims -- Ban
Turkey 74,660,000 0 Muslims -- No ban
Egypt 73,800,000 Muslims -- No ban
China 50,000,000 Muslims -- No ban
Algeria 40,400,000 Muslims -- No ban
Sudan 39,027,950 Muslims -- Ban
Morocco 32,381,000 Muslims -- No ban
Saudi Arabia 31,878,000 Muslims -- No ban
Iraq 31,108,000 Muslims -- No ban
Afghanistan 29,047,100 Muslims -- No ban
Uzbekistan 26,833,000 Muslims -- No ban
Ethiopia 25,037,646 Muslims -- No ban
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:06 pm to Tigerlaff
Top kek, don't think I've ever seen this one
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:06 pm to Antonio Moss
I understand the reasoning why the countries that are on the ban are there
I just think it should be all or nothing if we are going to have bans, not offer exemptions based off religion
That was my point
I just think it should be all or nothing if we are going to have bans, not offer exemptions based off religion
That was my point
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:07 pm to NC_Tigah
I never stated it was a total Muslim ban
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:07 pm to Collegedropout
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How many libertarians do you know?
It's just like conservatives or liberals. Everyone defines themselves by a unique set of criteria. Hell, there was a guy on youtube that declared himself an "anarco-leftist libertarian" but then went on to describe what amounted to Marxist-Leninism.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:08 pm to Salmon
quote:Why IYO was the ban put in place?
I never stated it was a total Muslim ban
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:08 pm to BamaCoaster
quote:
We've been drowned out.
It sucks.
Still here. Just trying bring reason to this cesspool.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:10 pm to Salmon
quote:
I understand the reasoning why the countries that are on the ban are there
Clearly you don't
quote:
I just think it should be all or nothing if we are going to have bans, not offer exemptions based off religion
That was my point
The exemption wasn't for all religious minorities. Applicants have to show religious persecution or oppression under specific guidelines under USRAP.
This post was edited on 12/7/17 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:11 pm to Eurocat
I'm here.
I really don't characterize what others are. Meaning, I don't dispute whether a poster is a particular ideology past how they describe themselves. I read their positions and agree, disagree, learn from, or ignore based upon the specific text.
My "libertarian" bonafides:
Yesterday, I was on the side of the San Fran jury that found the illegal immigrant not guilty.
I have consistently been PRO gay marriage rights and I posted on the side of the baker in the dispute over having Gov force him to make a custom cake for the gay couple.
I am pro weed legalization. I am open to hearing a view on "harder" drugs. But, my bias is against.
A few weeks ago, I posted in a thread lamenting Trumps juvenile tweeting.
I am pro individual rights and SMALL fed gov. But, I am not anarchist. I do agree there are limits to the personal freedoms. But, there should be very compelling reasons for the limits.
I am an Atheist. But, I am steadfastly on the side of religious people and religions to be respected, etc.
I am fiscally conservative. That is why I mostly "vote" for conservatives (though, they suck balls as being fiscally responsible, too. They just do not swallow, like the libs do.)
So, am I some reduction ad absurdum version of "Libertarian"? No. But, I certainly fit in the characterization better than I fit elsewhere.
I really don't characterize what others are. Meaning, I don't dispute whether a poster is a particular ideology past how they describe themselves. I read their positions and agree, disagree, learn from, or ignore based upon the specific text.
My "libertarian" bonafides:
Yesterday, I was on the side of the San Fran jury that found the illegal immigrant not guilty.
I have consistently been PRO gay marriage rights and I posted on the side of the baker in the dispute over having Gov force him to make a custom cake for the gay couple.
I am pro weed legalization. I am open to hearing a view on "harder" drugs. But, my bias is against.
A few weeks ago, I posted in a thread lamenting Trumps juvenile tweeting.
I am pro individual rights and SMALL fed gov. But, I am not anarchist. I do agree there are limits to the personal freedoms. But, there should be very compelling reasons for the limits.
I am an Atheist. But, I am steadfastly on the side of religious people and religions to be respected, etc.
I am fiscally conservative. That is why I mostly "vote" for conservatives (though, they suck balls as being fiscally responsible, too. They just do not swallow, like the libs do.)
So, am I some reduction ad absurdum version of "Libertarian"? No. But, I certainly fit in the characterization better than I fit elsewhere.
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:13 pm to Antonio Moss
Hence why I said “loosely” in my first post
My entire point was that if we are going to ban immigration from a country, it needs to be all, no exemptions, and definitely not exemptions based off religion
My entire point was that if we are going to ban immigration from a country, it needs to be all, no exemptions, and definitely not exemptions based off religion
Posted on 12/7/17 at 12:19 pm to Salmon
quote:You look silly continuing to pursue this.
not exemptions based off religion
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