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What would Patton do?
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:30 pm
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:30 pm
Watching Smithsonian channel "The Battle of Normandy ". And the go into great detail about Bradley and Patton's actions.
If Patton was in charge of Israel's troops what do you think he would do.
By the way, the human (non-combatant) casualties for Normandy was described as "horrific".
If Patton was in charge of Israel's troops what do you think he would do.
By the way, the human (non-combatant) casualties for Normandy was described as "horrific".
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Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:36 pm to dafif
Prudently take on the characteristics of the Nazi blitzkrieg tactics, throwing as much personnel at the enemy as high command would allot him……and bum rush the bastards until the streets were awash in their blood.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:40 pm to ClockwordOrange76
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If patton knew the western world would turn into this pussified satan worshipping Soviet nightmare he probably would’ve fought for Germany
There is no probably about it.
Once Patton saw what we had done to Germany and the forces that we unleashed onto the world, he said as much.
He was liquidated shortly thereafter.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:44 pm to dafif
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What would Patton do?
I say this from the cheap seats, as do we all:
1. Win
1a. Gain glory for Patton
2. Sacrifice more troops than necessary in order to achieve 1 or 1a, and I’m not sure of the order. I’m not even sure that’s a bad quality in a general, and I say that as a former likely KIA under his hypothetical command.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:49 pm to Flats
He definitely would not have "negotiated " further. Palestinians / hamas in Gaza would be eliminated with extreme prejudice.
Isn't that the purpose of war? To destroy your enemies? The US destroyed thousands and thousands of non combatants on the way to Berlin
Isn't that the purpose of war? To destroy your enemies? The US destroyed thousands and thousands of non combatants on the way to Berlin
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:50 pm to dafif
Hold em by the nose and kick them in the arse.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 9:51 pm to Flats
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2. Sacrifice more troops than necessary in order to achieve 1 or 1a, and I’m not sure of the order. I’m not even sure that’s a bad quality in a general, and I say that as a former likely KIA under his hypothetical command.
Funny as Patton had one of the lowest casualty rating to ground gained of any command while in command of 3rd Army. Patton knew aggressiveness put the enemy off-balanced enough to save his own troops and keep driving.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:00 pm to dafif
From what I know about Patton he would nuke Gaza.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:01 pm to dafif
Make sure you don’t have to take back the same land twice.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:02 pm to dafif
Patton studied maneuver quite a bit and wasn't just looking to assault assault assault. He was looking for advantageous engagements.
I think he would order a large, like very large, air mission to be prepped. Rather than use air to prep the battlefield, he would enter with a heavy armored force, with artillery to the rear. He would then enter Gaza with armor and infantry and he'd dial up the intell folks to find out when Hamas (and others) committed forces to meet and counter this assault. When the direct fire engagements started he would call in the artillery. Then he'd set a hasty defense while launching air. Continue the artillery, withdraw the armor, and mount a sustained air attack. Count the bodies then move in with armor again knowing he probably just obliterated the enemy's reserve and counter-attack forces, so he could blitz through, establish a cordon, then clear methodically.
I think he would order a large, like very large, air mission to be prepped. Rather than use air to prep the battlefield, he would enter with a heavy armored force, with artillery to the rear. He would then enter Gaza with armor and infantry and he'd dial up the intell folks to find out when Hamas (and others) committed forces to meet and counter this assault. When the direct fire engagements started he would call in the artillery. Then he'd set a hasty defense while launching air. Continue the artillery, withdraw the armor, and mount a sustained air attack. Count the bodies then move in with armor again knowing he probably just obliterated the enemy's reserve and counter-attack forces, so he could blitz through, establish a cordon, then clear methodically.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:06 pm to goatmilker
Don't know the idiot downvoter but Gaza is not a tankers delight. Its hell for tanks.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:07 pm to dafif
It's impossible to translate WW2 to the Israel-Palestine conflict because they're totally different and there's vastly different goals.
Flushing Germans out to other countries and taking Germany's land over wasn't an option.
Flushing Germans out to other countries and taking Germany's land over wasn't an option.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 10:08 pm to dafif
The term scorched earth applies here
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:11 pm to BeepNode
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It's impossible to translate WW2 to the Israel-Palestine conflict
I would disagree to the extent that WW II required combat within cities and non combatants
It was as brutal as anything that has ever happened. Pick a battle - Stalingrad?
Israel will go into Gaza to eliminate every person with any affiliation to hamas
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:17 pm to dafif
quote:"If you kill them, they stop fighting" - Curtis LeMay
Isn't that the purpose of war? To destroy your enemies?
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:24 pm to goatmilker
quote:the film, accurate or not, clearly states Patton disapproves of nuclear warfare, due its impersonal nature deemphasizing individual heroics
From what I know about Patton he would nuke Gaza.
Posted on 10/14/23 at 11:28 pm to dafif
Flanking maneuver , cover retreat by artillery. Air power to armor into main forces.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 6:32 pm to Junky
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Funny as Patton had one of the lowest casualty rating to ground gained of any command while in command of 3rd Army.
Well yeah, I’m pretty sure he took command after the initial invasion. He was also responsible for a complete disaster of a raid in an effort to free prisoners that just happened to include his son-in-law. I’d take him in a fight for sure but he wasn’t without flaws.
Posted on 10/15/23 at 7:22 pm to dafif
Patton would roll through Gaza all the way to Moscow.
This post was edited on 10/15/23 at 7:23 pm
Posted on 10/15/23 at 7:24 pm to dafif
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If Patton was in charge of Israel's troops what do you think he would do.
The object of war is to make the other poor bastard die for HIS country.
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