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What would happen if the US abolished all UNEARNED entitlements?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:11 pm
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:11 pm
What would happen if the US abolished all UNEARNED entitlements?
to be clear, i am not talking about soc sec, soc sec disability, or veterans benefits or any other benefits earned through work or service.
im strictly talking obama phones, ebt, welfare, unemployment, and any other free shite paid for by taxpayers.
ya ya we all know there will be riots in the streets at first, but after say the first month goes by, any many are killed or in jails, do you think the free loading filth that are left go get a job, or will they prefer to be criminal parasites instead?
to be clear, i am not talking about soc sec, soc sec disability, or veterans benefits or any other benefits earned through work or service.
im strictly talking obama phones, ebt, welfare, unemployment, and any other free shite paid for by taxpayers.
ya ya we all know there will be riots in the streets at first, but after say the first month goes by, any many are killed or in jails, do you think the free loading filth that are left go get a job, or will they prefer to be criminal parasites instead?
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 12:14 pm
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Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:12 pm to keakar
Would be a glorious day
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:14 pm to keakar
I would change the policies surrounding entitlements where it would actually be possible for people to work their way off of welfare.
Next I would come up with a plan for people to move where the jobs are and spit the cost between the company hiring them and the state they're moving to.
If the people remaining on welfare want neither of these options, cut them off.
Next I would come up with a plan for people to move where the jobs are and spit the cost between the company hiring them and the state they're moving to.
If the people remaining on welfare want neither of these options, cut them off.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:15 pm to keakar
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to be clear, i am not talking about soc sec, soc sec disability
if these programs are in deficit it's because they weren't funded enough, and so to some extent they'd have to be cut as they were not fully earned
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:24 pm to 90proofprofessional
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if these programs are in deficit it's because they weren't funded enough, and so to some extent they'd have to be cut as they were not fully earned
No the programs had the money paid into them, but our worthless politicians (R and D) spent it on other stuff instead of safe guarding it.
To the OP:
It would be the greatest day in American history. People can achieve anything in America, but the current system is designed to keep some suppressed.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:26 pm to keakar
i would be happy 
quote:for a while until their lives ended in one of the various ways that the lives of criminals end...most would not work
prefer to be criminal parasites instead?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 12:28 pm to alphaandomega
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programs had the money paid into them, but our worthless politicians (R and D) spent it on other stuff instead
they're still in deficit based on benefits & collections to date
for social security, the first generation of recipients didn't pay for shite. and they had several workers per retiree back then. now for each retiree we have fewer workers supporting them. so to an extent they never paid for what they've been getting
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:31 pm to keakar
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im strictly talking obama phones, ebt, welfare, unemployment, and any other free shite paid for by taxpayers.
I', OK with getting rid of Obama phones, etc. but EBT ( food stamps) and unemployment I have to ask why?
A lot of EBT is for old folks and for kids especially those types where the parents are incarcerated or juridically separated from the parents.
Unemployment.....to a certain extent, your employer has paid for this and if you are a victim of a layoff, I don't necessarily see it as a problem for the short term. 3-4 mos.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:36 pm to 90proofprofessional
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if these programs are in deficit it's because they weren't funded enough, and so to some extent they'd have to be cut as they were not fully earned
Thats the dirty little secret proof, one that neither side wants to address. Its golly gee wiz, people are living longer and there are more of them, we dont have enough money.
Are we to actually believe we could conquer the entire world only a few years after we couldnt read an actuary chart when we set up SS in 1935?
Kennedy signed the bill and every president since LBJ has been dipping into the interest that should have been accruing for over half a century. Illegal to touch the principal paid in,but the interest was fair game. Thats the problem, that and the "disability" rate that has skyrocketed in the last decade.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:36 pm to KiwiHead
How about we just narrow it down to all adults between the ages of 24 and 55, who are of sound mind and body. You get 3 months to transition off the government dole.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:37 pm to keakar
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to be clear, i am not talking about soc sec, soc sec disability, or veterans benefits or any other benefits earned through work or service.
Would your hypothetical reduce those benefits in proportion to what was actually earned?
Posted on 9/12/18 at 1:54 pm to GaryGator
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How about we just narrow it down to all adults between the ages of 24 and 55, who are of sound mind and body. You get 3 months to transition off the government dole.
I don't have a problem with that as a whole. I find that most people who have to go on unemployment tend to get off of it within 90-120 days after first receiving it.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:34 pm to keakar
un-earned entitlements are simply welfare, or government "charity"..
Entitlements, by definition, are EARNED.
Hence, one is entitled to what they have earned.
Entitlements, by definition, are EARNED.
Hence, one is entitled to what they have earned.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 2:51 pm to keakar
People would riot for about a week in the hood and the retirement homes. Politicians would lose their elections to people promising to restore those benefits, and in a year or two, most of them would be back on the dole or dead.
If the nation could somehow weather the storm for a year or two without caving and restoring the benefits, people would adjust, and the nation would be made much stronger as a result...provided the taxes currently going to pay for those entitlements were eliminated.
If the nation could somehow weather the storm for a year or two without caving and restoring the benefits, people would adjust, and the nation would be made much stronger as a result...provided the taxes currently going to pay for those entitlements were eliminated.
This post was edited on 9/12/18 at 2:53 pm
Posted on 9/12/18 at 3:06 pm to keakar
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to be clear, i am not talking about soc sec, soc sec disability, or veterans benefits or any other benefits earned through work or service.
So we are not talking about 90% of entitlement spending.
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obama phones
Reagan signed into law.
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welfare
Not an entitlement.
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unemployment
How is this one not earned?
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ya ya we all know there will be riots in the streets at first, but after say the first month goes by, any many are killed or in jails, do you think the free loading filth that are left go get a job, or will they prefer to be criminal parasites instead?
The typical government benefit recipient does not look like what you think they look like. Most are white. Most are employed. Most are Republican.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 4:31 pm to keakar
There would have to be emergency measures put in place to manufacture more 5.56, 9mm, .40, .357 magnum, etc ammunition because as the working, tax paying citizens restore order and quell the absolute anarchy and riots, there would be a shortage until rightful order is restored.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 4:34 pm to keakar
The problem is jobs are created by demand for goods and services
Once you remove these entitlements the demand for goods and services will drop because the supply of ways to pay for them drops
Jobs won't just pop up out of thin air to be vacated by all of these deadbeats
Once you remove these entitlements the demand for goods and services will drop because the supply of ways to pay for them drops
Jobs won't just pop up out of thin air to be vacated by all of these deadbeats
Posted on 9/12/18 at 5:16 pm to Powerman
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Once you remove these entitlements the demand for goods and services will drop because the supply of ways to pay for them drops
I get what you're saying, but I don't think it would have a big effect. The demand for things that welfare, etc covers, like food, healthcare, house utilities, will not change. I don't see welfare recipients spending much on luxury items and leisure services. The jewelry, overpriced sneaker, and car rim industries will probably take a hit, though.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 5:32 pm to keakar
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UNEARNED entitlements?
No such thing exists.
Posted on 9/12/18 at 5:33 pm to LSUconvert
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