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re: What were the real statistics regarding Covid?

Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:10 pm to
Posted by WRCC
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:10 pm to
In 2016, 22,000 people died in the US of seasonal flu
In 2017, 38,000 people died in the US of seasonal flu
In 2018, 51,000 people died in the US of seasonal flu (abnormal year)
In 2019, 27,000 people died in the US of seasonal flu
In 2020, 25,000 people died in the US of seasonal flu
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 8:17 am
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
20189 posts
Posted on 2/16/25 at 10:17 pm to
Getting an actual number will likely prove difficult because:
a) the way cause of deaths were reported
b) the protocols adopted by hospitals
c) side effects from the vaccine(s) that led to deaths later on
Posted by NC_Tigah
Make Orwell Fiction Again
Member since Sep 2003
135699 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 4:37 am to
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I'm sure Covid was real, but was it responsible for any deaths?
Yes. My mom was one of them.

Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9997 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:48 am to
I would love to know the amount of people that took ivermectin and didn't recover quickly from Covid.

If it didn't work, one would expect there to be a significant amount of people decrying it's ineffectiveness. Yet there are thousands that swear by it and many personally know someone who used it successfully.

Then compare that to the number of people who got the vaxx, vaxx plus booster(s) and what percentage of those people still contracted Covid.
Posted by CheLiu
Member since Oct 2024
236 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:06 am to
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But compare that number of people who die of the flu or pneumonia. Unfortunately I had Covid and pneumonia at the same time and I still don’t have the ability to smell. I believe at the time flu deaths and pneumonia deaths went down iirc


Covid causes pneumonia

Wearing a mask can help lower the risk of respiratory virus transmission, including flu, respiratory syncytial virus (RSV), and COVID-19 (SARS-COV-1&2)
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 8:15 am
Posted by Lawyered
The Sip
Member since Oct 2016
37269 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 6:36 am to
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FEMA is providing financial assistance for funeral expenses from COVID-19 deaths, provided the expenses were incurred after January 20, 2020, and have not been reimbursed by other financial sources. Assistance is limited to a maximum of $9,000 per funeral and a maximum of $35,500 per application per state. At this time, there is no deadline to apply for COVID-19 Funeral Assistance. FEMA will communicate a specific deadline once established.


Talk about incentive to list COVID as cause of death

Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52352 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:27 pm to
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If it didn't work, one would expect there to be a significant amount of people decrying it's ineffectiveness. Yet there are thousands that swear by it and many personally know someone who used it successfully.

The treatment I used was as effective as Ivermectin or anything else. I did nothing and survived. So doing nothing worked.

Covid was so benign for the vast majority of people that you could have chosen any treatment and it would have probably worked. That includes eating sawdust and rubbing Boudreax' Butt Paste on your weiner
This post was edited on 2/17/25 at 3:28 pm
Posted by SlayTime
Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 3:55 pm to
On another note, has anyone seen the stats from this flu season? Worst in 15 years.

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Posted by AlexLWR
Member since Oct 2024
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Posted on 2/17/25 at 5:26 pm to
Posted by Cuz413
Member since Nov 2007
9997 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 7:51 pm to
You want a fricking trophy?

Many of us who got it didn't suffer from complications. However there were some, that despite their best efforts, needed more.
Posted by Hognutz
Member since Sep 2018
2621 posts
Posted on 2/17/25 at 8:10 pm to
Which are all based on the isolation of a virus, yes?
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
52352 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:12 am to
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Many of us who got it didn't suffer from complications. However there were some, that despite their best efforts, needed more.

How do we know they needed more? I was sick; I took nothing, and I got better. If I took a placebo I would have gotten better and credited the placebo, just as so many of these people are crediting Remdesevir or whatever they took.
Posted by Seldom Seen
Member since Feb 2016
48737 posts
Posted on 2/18/25 at 8:16 am to
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At this point I don't think we'll ever know.




We will never know because they were attributing almost all deaths to covid.
Posted by CheLiu
Member since Oct 2024
236 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 7:53 am to
No
Posted by CheLiu
Member since Oct 2024
236 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:04 am to
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Which are all based on the isolation of a virus, yes?


A simple explanation is that you can identify a gunshot wound without isolating the bullet
This post was edited on 2/19/25 at 8:10 am
Posted by cyarrr
Prairieville
Member since Jun 2017
4024 posts
Posted on 2/19/25 at 8:35 am to
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You have to be in some sort of delusional conspiracy wonderland to have missed the people dying of Covid.


True

A friend of mine, early 40's, died within three weeks of being diagnosed. He seemed healthy, not over weight, active life style. We vacationed with him on a couples' trip two weeks before he contracted the virus. He was unvaccinated.

My wife worked on a covid unit during the pandemic. She say's they were overwhelmed at times with the amount of covid patients to the point they were running out of ventilators. Basically said that most every patient who was put on a vent died. This is something she had never experienced before or has since. Two of her co-workers died, they were vaccinated.

The numbers were no doubt inflated, but it was deadly. To believe it was not responsible for any deaths is ludicrous .
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
21855 posts
Posted on 2/20/25 at 2:51 pm to
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The numbers were no doubt inflated, but it was deadly. To believe it was not responsible for any deaths is ludicrous .

Of course Covid could prove lethal. 2 inches of water in a pail can prove lethal, too.

The point is Covid, as nasty as it was for the very weak and/or already diseased/morbidly obese, was not the threat it was hyped to be and did not warrant the suspension of the constitution, cratering of the economy or the indefensible/criminal handling of the outbreak by schools.
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