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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:38 am to finchmeister08
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:38 am to finchmeister08
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Biden really going to be that much worse? i don't really remember what Obama campaigned on, other than healthcare, but that seems to be the only thing he got done in 8 years.
This election was stolen, everyone was able to watch the theft, and no one did anything about it.
This is why it is way worse this time. They stole 2 senate seats in GA. No state wants to allow a forensic audit of machines that are able to change votes. This means the thieves are in complete control. Who thinks the next election will not be stolen when election laws were violated on camera in multiple states, and no one has been arrested in those states. (Texas has a case, but is not one of the contested states.) They tried to steal NC, FL, and TX, but do not have enough control of enough counties at this time.
When we hear them say NC, FL, and TX might go blue this is the warning that the theft is ON in these states. Trump won those states by more votes than they admitted.
Trump probably won NH, NM, and VA too.
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Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:41 am to finchmeister08
A girl at Monkey Hill bar (when people still went there) in Nola, smashed her glass on the ground outside and said that she was done with this country.
This was when CNN literally had a guy outside that bar to get reactions.
So yeah, most everyone's take here is right, though I don't necessarily think Biden is farther left than Obama, but I totally accept that I might be wrong.
For what it's worth and that's not much...there were pissed people in 2008 too.
Honestly the angry libs in 2004 when Kerry lost were worse, if that can be belived.
This was when CNN literally had a guy outside that bar to get reactions.
So yeah, most everyone's take here is right, though I don't necessarily think Biden is farther left than Obama, but I totally accept that I might be wrong.
For what it's worth and that's not much...there were pissed people in 2008 too.
Honestly the angry libs in 2004 when Kerry lost were worse, if that can be belived.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:42 am to finchmeister08
You knew this guy had anti-American thoughts and a radical background compared to Dems that came before him. He touted socialist ideas without calling them socialist ideas, and in two years they crammed through two huge bills unapologetically (Obamacare and Dodd-Frank).
The mood was less doom and gloom and more trying to find a way to stop it. There was no contested election because McCain ran the worst campaign in history until Biden.
Obama being elected enabled the level of radical politicians to increase with Omar and AOC.
Today, we have a contested election, a president who was never given a chance by the media and who was the victim of flaccid investigations and impeachments. Social media has poisoned the American political system and poured gas on the fire.
The doom and gloom you’re hearing is from looking back at the precedent Obama set politically and how far left the Libs have shifted since.
The mood was less doom and gloom and more trying to find a way to stop it. There was no contested election because McCain ran the worst campaign in history until Biden.
Obama being elected enabled the level of radical politicians to increase with Omar and AOC.
Today, we have a contested election, a president who was never given a chance by the media and who was the victim of flaccid investigations and impeachments. Social media has poisoned the American political system and poured gas on the fire.
The doom and gloom you’re hearing is from looking back at the precedent Obama set politically and how far left the Libs have shifted since.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:48 am to finchmeister08
It wasn’t nearly so bleak - my parents are diehard Republicans and even they weren’t crushed or anything
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:54 am to TheSearch
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Honestly the angry libs in 2004 when Kerry lost were worse, if that can be belived.
That’s definitely true. The Democratic Party from ‘04 - ‘08 were a bunch of hysterical shite-slinging monkeys. A decade and a half of time has misted just how badly the Iraq War fractured our body politic.
Afghanistan got the books and movies and the histories because we were there forever and because it involved an enemy that directly attacked us, but Iraq was 1) far more controversial 2) a hell of a lot more brutal and 3) a hell of a lot more toxic. The defining events in the 21st century for this country (until the pandemic) have been the decision to invade Iraq and the financial crisis. Everything since then was an unforeseen outcome of those two events.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 12:55 am to finchmeister08
Joe The Plumber was very upset.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:01 am to finchmeister08
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is Biden really going to be that much worse?
No, GOP supporters do this every time a Democrat is elected President, even though the two are not that much different.
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i don't really remember what Obama campaigned on, other than healthcare, but that seems to be the only thing he got done in 8 years.
Obama couldn't get much done, because the GOP wouldn't work with him. That strategy was created on Inauguration Day and there were articles written about it all over.
I'm hoping that Biden will have more success, since his peers are more familiar with him. If not, I expect that Biden will play hardball, like the GOP does and Obama refused to do, except for a few extraordinary circumstances.
I fully expect to get downvoted for this, as usual, but at least you're receiving an alternate opinion for this board, although an opinion that likely represents the majority of Americans.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:03 am to supatigah
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100% support across the board for the first black american to overcome systemic racism
This is so far from anything even remotely resembling the truth. It’s sad really, I feel
Sorry for you.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:05 am to NineLineBind
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Obama laid the foundation for what is happening now. During his administration, the deep state was fortified.
This really cannot be overstated. Things ratcheted up dramatically during his 8 years. Much of what he did was reversed by Trump. But what Trump did to reverse it is just an executive order away from being reimplemented. Other posters have given specific examples of things that happened under Obama. I would suggest asking about one and then diving into it. There is too much ground to cover in one post.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:08 am to redeye
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Obama couldn't get much done, because the GOP wouldn't work with him. That strategy was created on Inauguration Day and there were articles written about it all over.
Well that just sounds like American government working like it was designed to do, in theory.
Same scenario with Trump....ratcheted up quite a few levels.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:36 am to finchmeister08
The Obama win was not even in the same universe of contested as this. They didn't cover up stolen counties. They didn't need to. So the right accepted that they lost. Because we almost certainly did. So we all bit the bullet and sucked it up while he blamed Bush for anything wrong and basically set about dividing the country by race and any other identity they could make happen.
We knew what they were doing. We called them out on it. Made no difference and nobody was getting ready to shoot their neighbor over it.
This one though is deeply different. They stole it. They did it blatantly with absolute disregard for anyone's 'feelings' about it. And the response to it is going to reflect that.
When China buys your country, don't cry when they cause it to go into self destruct mode immediately.
We knew what they were doing. We called them out on it. Made no difference and nobody was getting ready to shoot their neighbor over it.
This one though is deeply different. They stole it. They did it blatantly with absolute disregard for anyone's 'feelings' about it. And the response to it is going to reflect that.
When China buys your country, don't cry when they cause it to go into self destruct mode immediately.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:40 am to redeye
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Obama couldn't get much done, because the GOP wouldn't work with him.
That's just a talking point that butthurt millennials throw out there to make themselves feel better because Obama wasn't passing UBI.
It always helps the psyche to have a villain to blame all of your problems on, and the Republican Party fits the bill for many Americans now. The fact of the matter is that Obama had a Democratic congress for part of his tenure and still didn't pass anything notable except for the ACA. The dude was more interested in race baiting and being a celebrity than his presidential duties.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 1:48 am to finchmeister08
Different times, this is the cliff. Either we go straight communism or we turn this around like no other. It’s going to be extreme times starting in the next days/weeks/years. We are living in special times of history that will be in books & movies for many years to come! Hold on right....
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:45 am to Walnut
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That's just a talking point that butthurt millennials throw out there to make themselves feel better because Obama wasn't passing UBI.
There were multiple stories written about it when it happened. There's also a PBS documentary titled "Divide" that covers it, which is available to watch online and on Roku, etc.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 2:47 am to finchmeister08
As previous posters have alluded, Obama was generally disingenuous (lying) about his intentions, while this time the Dems are quite open about their aims.
While Obama didn't actually realize much of his program aside from Obamacare, once elected he was open in his goals such as Section 8ing the suburbs and race baiting. In fact the latter, destroying the progress America had achieved in creating a truly colorblind society, may be his most lasting legacy.
It's very strange. I was devastated by Obama's win. Stopped watching the news (and have not watched a TV newscast since, FWIW), didn't read online news for days, avoided any kind of political discussion w/people. I took a sort of semi-hiatus from politics throughout the entire Obama period. I went 8 years without posting on the TD PB (presumably a record for a voluntary TD board "boycott") and often went months without even reading it, or any other political websites (as I said, I stopped watching TV news the night Obama was elected).
As a result I paid almost no attention to Trump's rise. On Election Night I was just surfing TD as usual, occasionally perusing tPB to see if Her Majesty had been officially crowned... Even then I realized Trump's win was a freak and just a stopgap in the inevitable progressive takeover. But it was nice seeing Hillary get screwed again.
Of course, another difference between Biden and Obama is Obama actually won. Ultimately that's probably more frightening than an election that was stolen.
Now we will soon have DC statehood, a packed supreme court, amnesty for 15M illegal aliens... These aren't even the most radical policies, what with elected Dems calling for their political opponents to be "deprogrammed", along with open, blatant blacklisting of Trump supporters by corporate America already happening. Yet unlike 2008 I am strangely calm and still reading the PB. I guess I am at the final stage of acceptance.
"Depend upon it, sir, when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." -- Dr. Samuel Johnson
While Obama didn't actually realize much of his program aside from Obamacare, once elected he was open in his goals such as Section 8ing the suburbs and race baiting. In fact the latter, destroying the progress America had achieved in creating a truly colorblind society, may be his most lasting legacy.
It's very strange. I was devastated by Obama's win. Stopped watching the news (and have not watched a TV newscast since, FWIW), didn't read online news for days, avoided any kind of political discussion w/people. I took a sort of semi-hiatus from politics throughout the entire Obama period. I went 8 years without posting on the TD PB (presumably a record for a voluntary TD board "boycott") and often went months without even reading it, or any other political websites (as I said, I stopped watching TV news the night Obama was elected).
As a result I paid almost no attention to Trump's rise. On Election Night I was just surfing TD as usual, occasionally perusing tPB to see if Her Majesty had been officially crowned... Even then I realized Trump's win was a freak and just a stopgap in the inevitable progressive takeover. But it was nice seeing Hillary get screwed again.
Of course, another difference between Biden and Obama is Obama actually won. Ultimately that's probably more frightening than an election that was stolen.
Now we will soon have DC statehood, a packed supreme court, amnesty for 15M illegal aliens... These aren't even the most radical policies, what with elected Dems calling for their political opponents to be "deprogrammed", along with open, blatant blacklisting of Trump supporters by corporate America already happening. Yet unlike 2008 I am strangely calm and still reading the PB. I guess I am at the final stage of acceptance.
"Depend upon it, sir, when a man knows he is to be hanged in a fortnight, it concentrates his mind wonderfully." -- Dr. Samuel Johnson
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:02 am to redeye
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There's also a PBS documentary titled "Divide" that covers it
Wow??? A PBS documentary????? I'm sold!
Posted on 1/17/21 at 3:22 am to finchmeister08
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What was the gloom a
#FundamentalChange
Was massively underestimated by sleeping conservatives who were so proud to break that glass ceiling to have the 1st minority president. “He’s so articulate and well spoken...”
Posted on 1/17/21 at 4:55 am to NPComb
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Was massively underestimated by sleeping conservatives who were so proud to break that glass ceiling to have the 1st minority president. “He’s so articulate and well spoken...”
This is partially correct, but I want to add something for non others at the time
Yes, fundamental change was the rage
But along with Karen and Chads and Rinos, it was white Dems and other leftists who were also slapping themselves on the back, trying to convince others of all stripes and colors that ‘see, we’re not racist’.
And the man who stated that Obama was articulate is none other than our incoming closet racist, Corn pop Joe Biden. He said in 2017:
quote:he later apologized for his statement.
“I mean, you got the first African-American who is articulate and bright and clean and a nice-looking guy. I mean, that’s a storybook, man,” Biden told the reporter.
Finally, for those not voting then, the MSM buried most attempts by conservative organizations and boards (TD, FR) and talk shows (Limbaugh, Hannity) to bring up Obama’s links and ties to Rev Wright of KKK America, Bill Ayers, B, Dorn, ‘father’ Pfkeger and others. It was a train wreck coming.
Abd although there were reports of voter intimidation in urban areas there was NO discussion of nation wide systemic voter fraud. The results were not questioned.
Posted on 1/17/21 at 5:37 am to AbuTheMonkey
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Biden’s actual worldview and record is fairly anti-interventionist.
like that matters like he doesn't change with the wind anyway. You assholes lie as long as possible to hide what you plan to do.
Joe Biden the resolute ROCK
Posted on 1/17/21 at 6:03 am to finchmeister08
Not this bad by a mile. Never seen politics and propaganda like this. Our house is divided.
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