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finchmeister08
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What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
I was a freshman in college and wasn't into politics like i am now. however, looking back, we all survived it. is Biden really going to be that much worse? i don't really remember what Obama campaigned on, other than healthcare, but that seems to be the only thing he got done in 8 years.


supatigah
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
100% support across the board for the first black american to overcome systemic racism


Privateer 2007
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
Obama is a Right Winger compared to Slow Joe and the Hoe.


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Big EZ Tiger
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
It's not even comparable to what it is now.


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St Augustine
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
It was really bad amongst my conservative friends. Hell I drove to St Aug and back from New Orleans to vote against him as they never sent my absentee ballot.

However Twitter was just coming online and arguing on other forms of social media wasn’t nearly what it was today. I had friends who voted for both sides and they were still friends afterwards. Things were a lot more cordial.
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fallguy_1978
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
Fairly similar to this to be honest but social media wasn't so prolific so it was lessened somewhat for his first election


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Sentrius
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
Everybody knew democrats were in the drivers seat after 8 years of Bush 43 and it was a done deal when McCain was practically campaigning as a third term of Bush 43.

Just a collective shrug all around when Obama gave his victory speech at Grant Park in Chicago.

About as surprising as the sun setting a few hours earlier tonight.


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MDB
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
I didn’t like Obama but I did not fear him. I fear Biden and Co.

Obama really turned out to be a mostly do-nothing president who enjoyed going around and enjoying his celebrity status.

He too often said things to drive a wedge between the races. He was a great orator with a prompter but just another Uhh-uhh guy without it.

His worst move ever, In my opinion, was his worldwide American apology tour. It set us back years.

Biden’s term could be much worse considering the factions who have come into power since Obama. Even Pelosi was once a lot more moderate but has been turned.

The return to Endless Wars is already forming in the Mideast and Taiwan.




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AndyCBR
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
The majority of that 8 years they did not control all 3 branches of government.

And the short period they did, they thankfully didn't accomplish much.

Biden is a puppet and when he isn't radical enough for them he's out.

The new breed of leftist is much more open about taking away your freedoms and I wholly expect them to try and make good on those promises.


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GoldenGuy
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
It was bad.

But back then we assumed the worst and over an eight year stretch they didn't reach the peak levels we thought we'd see.

If everything I've read is true, they implement every single shitty policy in under a week.

And the first week starts on a Thursday.


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davyjones
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
The Democrats' deciding to kick folks while they're down (despite having apparently just frickin gotten a clean sweep of Executive and both sides of the Capitol building) by impeaching the other side's guy is a pretty ugly start to "uniting the country".


There's just no way around it....

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Landmass
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
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that seems to be the only thing he got done in 8 years.


All of the communist shite that is going on right now is thanks to Obama. He created a group called the OFA which was used to disrupt Trump.


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Concernednewguy7
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
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100% support across the board for the first black american to overcome systemic racism


I mean it was the white vote that got him elected. I know many who voted Barack on the basis that it would end the baseless concept of racism. Nope, that is one crutch they will never give up.


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Concernednewguy7
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
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But back then we assumed the worst and over an eight year stretch they didn't reach the peak levels we thought we'd see.


Fast and furious
“Affordable” care act
Weaponization of the irs
Benghazi
Cash for iran
Hillary’s emails
False fisa applications


NineLineBind
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
Obama laid the foundation for what is happening now. During his administration, the deep state was fortified.


GoldenGuy
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
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Fast and furious
“Affordable” care act
Weaponization of the irs
Benghazi
Cash for iran
Hillary’s emails
False fisa applications


Fine, I'll spell it out.

A few things we thought we'd get from Obama:
Reparations
All the free handouts the homeless could ever want
$20+/hr minimum wage
Complete Socialization of Healthcare field (What we got was a means to crater the system, and that hasn't happened yet)
Massive amounts of pork spending and a National Debt Balloon so massive that we couldn't pay the interest payments
A complete tear down of border fences, and when you cross, the Border Patrol hands you immediate citizenship papers.
Complete conversion of our economic policy to communism/socialism.

That's the kind of shite we thought we'd get right away. We didn't back then. You can only guess what we're getting before Sunday.


mmcgrath
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
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I was a freshman in college and wasn't into politics like i am now. however, looking back, we all survived it. is Biden really going to be that much worse? i don't really remember what Obama campaigned on, other than healthcare, but that seems to be the only thing he got done in 8 years.
Actually Obama campaigned on infrastructure and getting out of Iraq, which were 100% the right idea. He took on Healthcare from Hillary to unite the party in the general. Then Hillary hung him out to dry.

There was general acceptance as the country realized the Iraq conflict was a farce, we were getting in too deep in Afghanistan, and Bin Laden wasn't caught. Likewise, the WORLD economy was largely in shambles because of US and UK banking thieves, and McCain was campaigning for endless wars in the ME.

Unfortunately Obama took on Hillary's baggage instead of leaving her in Congress. Without that Benghazi doesn't happen and Obama picks someone else to replace him who is moderate and the drama of the last 4 years is gone.


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AbuTheMonkey
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
The country was more concerned about the financial crisis and the fall-out from it than it was with almost anything else. Iraq was also a big issue at the time as well, though that was subsiding the further the campaign season went on, both because other issues were crowding it out and Iraq itself was improving a lot in 2008. This country also wasn’t nearly as divided then as it is right now.

Obama came in with a soaring vision and a lot of promise for the left, but the office sobered him, and he governed more conservatively - both in the global sense of the word and in the specific American political context - the longer he was actually in the office (with some exceptions, like the Dear University bullshite). Part of that was the 2010 election outcome, but part of it was also his evolution. To wit, he went from Sotomayor (definitely an ideologue) to Kagan (much less so) to Garland (not much at all).

Biden will get an economic bump this year and into early next year. It’s pretty much guaranteed because of the vaccine and pent-up demand from COVID restrictions when they eventually lift in large states and other countries. Thereafter, his policies will be more on the forefront. Despite what the sky-screaming hysterical doomers on TigerDroppings will tell you, most legislative policy is going to revolve around people like Joe Manchin, Conor Lamb, Kyrsten Sinema, Josh Gottheimer, Henry Cuellar, and so on - people who are very vulnerable to their right if they get a bit too cozy with the AOC-style radical firebreathers.

Biden’s actual worldview and record is fairly anti-interventionist. He was the only prominent member of Obama’s cabinet to strongly come out against the Afghan surge, as an example. His Cabinet picks so far are pretty moderate left or center left. Becerra is a dipshit, but I like Raimondo as a moderately conservative guy and kind of wish she’d run for higher office herself.
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mmcgrath
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
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Biden will get an economic bump this year and into early next year. It’s pretty much guaranteed because of the vaccine and pent-up demand from COVID restrictions when they eventually lift in large states and other countries. Thereafter, his policies will be more on the forefront. Despite what the sky-screaming hysterical doomers on TigerDroppings will tell you, most legislative policy is going to revolve around people like Joe Manchin, Conor Lamb, Kyrsten Sinema, Josh Gottheimer, Henry Cuellar, and so on - people who are very vulnerable to their right if they get a bit too cozy with the AOC-style radical firebreathers

I don't agree with your conclusions, but your argument is pretty good.


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davyjones
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re: What was the gloom and doom like when Obama was elected?
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most legislative policy is going to revolve around people like Joe Manchin, Conor Lamb, Kyrsten Sinema, Josh Gottheimer, Henry Cuellar, and so on - people who are very vulnerable to their right if they get a bit too cozy with the AOC-style radical firebreathers.

I certainly get what you're saying there, however even removing AOC-style radical agenda from the equation, there still remains plenty potentially on a Democrat agenda sans AOC rads that could and would be harsh for the right. And you're right, Manchin et al that you listed have a more moderate to conservative constituency to be concerned with, but that would be an afterthought if Manchin et al got sideways with the Democrat National, i.e. fundraising capabilities without which they're dead in the water.


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