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re: What these judges (and CJ Roberts) need to remember is Trump has the pardon power
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:30 pm to Sid E Walker
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:30 pm to Sid E Walker
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How many times did Joe try to ram through student loan forgiveness after the SC told him no?
Joe Biden did not ignore/defy the Supreme Court re: Student Loans
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Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:30 pm to SammyTiger
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he could just appeal their decisions and not create a constitutional crisis.
He’s not the one who created the constitutional crisis.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:31 pm to SammyTiger
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he could just appeal their decisions and not create a constitutional crisis.
Yes...
He's created a constitutional crisis.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:33 pm to Chancellor
The fact that you don’t understand that this is how the system is supposed to work
does not make this a constitutional crisis.
Telling the judicial branch to frick off does.
once the president starts acting with no check, why would he stop?
does not make this a constitutional crisis.
Telling the judicial branch to frick off does.
once the president starts acting with no check, why would he stop?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:34 pm to SammyTiger
Like a President has never told judicial to suck his dick in history.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:35 pm to SammyTiger
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once the president starts acting with no check, why would he stop?
Who knows.
Perhaps the legal profession should hold these lunatics accountable.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 9:35 pm to udtiger
Ok, so you want trump to be able to act unilaterally with no judicial oversight.
What’s that called?
what’s the name for that?
When one guy gets to run a country with no checks.
What’s that called?
what’s the name for that?
When one guy gets to run a country with no checks.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:02 pm to SammyTiger
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The fact that you don’t understand that this is how the system is supposed to work does not make this a constitutional crisis. Telling the judicial branch to frick off does. once the president starts acting with no check, why would he stop?
I understand very well how the system works and is supposed to work.
Manipulating the federal judiciary and the judicial system by filing frivolous lawsuits in jurisdictions with justices favorable to the plaintiffs’ political ideologies knowing that these activist justices will issue injunctions that they damn well know are unlawful and/or will be overturned on appeal just to slow down implementation of the Executive’s policies and hamstring their constitutional authority to implement them and govern will erode (and is actively eroding) the Peoples’ confidence in the Judicial branch to act as an independent and coequal third branch and check on the Executive.
At some point, the Executive will necessarily have to ignore unlawful rulings and injunctions in order to govern and perform basic Executive duties (such as remove terrorists and foreign enemies from the country, for example), or else the Executive will lose its own legitimacy.
THAT is the Constitutional crisis and Trump didn’t create it.
Ironically, even with all the mental gymnastics and creative bullshitting Roberts has performed to protect the Federal judicial system and the image of the Court, his and Congress’s failure to reign in this bullshite and put an end to this manipulation will be its undoing.
That won’t be on Trump. It will be on activist attorneys and judges who use the judiciary as a soft coup to overthrow the Executive.
The Judicial branch of government- especially unelected, District Court activist justices- is not a dictatorship and doesn’t rule this country, as much you wish it did. And they’re going to find it out.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:14 pm to SammyTiger
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When one guy gets to run a country with no checks.
Chaos caused by lunatic left wing judges destroying the public trust in the judiciary
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:18 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Chaos caused by lunatic left wing judges destroying the public trust in the judiciary
Boasberg is a lunatic leftist judge.
He got his first appointment for GW Bush.
You can’t chalk up every fricking TRO loss to “activist judges”
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:19 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Joe Biden did not ignore/defy the Supreme Court re: Student Loans
That did not answer the question. How many times did he try to ram it through despite multiple rejections by the SC.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:21 pm to SammyTiger
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You can’t chalk up every fricking TRO loss to “activist judges”
Who is doing that?
Quit defending lunatics, they are causing a constitutional crisis and destroying our form of governance.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:23 pm to Turbeauxdog
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Who is doing that? Quit defending lunatics, they are causing a constitutional crisis and destroying our form of governance.
Trump constantly
Y’all
Trump’s staff
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:28 pm to SammyTiger
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Ok, so you want trump to be able to act unilaterally with no judicial oversight. What’s that called?
FWIW the Trump DOJ and administration say they are complying. On this board we opine to ignore the judges’ orders but that’s not what the Trump admin is doing.
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 10:31 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:30 pm to SammyTiger
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Ok, so you want trump to be able to act unilaterally with no judicial oversight.
When he is absolutely operating within his Article II powers, yes. You know...like when he's acting as Commander-in-Chief and determines that trannies need to be booted from the military. Or, when he eliminates an agency by EO that was created by an EO.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:35 pm to udtiger
I said this in another thread earlier today:
The Trump administration currently appears to be adopting a strategy of superficial compliance with judicial rulings, while anticipating that the judiciary will perceive their actions as noncompliance. The Department of Justice should consider treating lower court rulings as advisory opinions, particularly when they encroach upon the executive branch's Article II responsibilities. If lower court judges hold executive branch officials in contempt, President Trump could issue pardons, allowing the executive to continue exercising its constitutional duties unimpeded.
The tactic of using lower courts to delay or obstruct the executive branch's Article II functions must be addressed. The administration could achieve this by outwardly respecting and appeasing the lower courts, while adhering to the executive's own interpretation of compliance. However, once a case reaches the Supreme Court and a ruling is issued, the executive branch should fully abide by the decision. This approach would balance deference to the judicial process with the preservation of executive authority.
This is how I think the Trump admin is currently proceeding.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:35 pm to udtiger
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When he is absolutely operating within his Article II powers, yes.
Oh you want him to operate within his Article II powers
How do we enforce that?
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You know...like when he's acting as Commander-in-Chief and determines that trannies need to be booted from the military. Or, when he eliminates an agency by EO that was created by an EO.
what about when he eliminates an agency created by EO that was then codified by Congress?
What if he wanted to kick out black people, could he do that as commander and chief?
This post was edited on 3/19/25 at 10:39 pm
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:39 pm to SammyTiger
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what about when he eliminates an agency created by EO that was then codified by Congress?
USAID has not been eliminated. It’s been sized down and existing functions moved to the State Department.
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:39 pm to SlowFlowPro
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Can't wait for the next DEM administration to wield this power. A "Unified Executive" who answers neither to Congress or the courts. What could go wrong?
Are we pretending a world existing without political ramifications?
Posted on 3/19/25 at 10:41 pm to SammyTiger
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Trump constantly Y’all Trump’s staff
Oh,
All the lunatic ones.
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