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re: What practical change will be achieved by an FDA approval on covid vaccines
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:28 am to Revelator
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:28 am to Revelator
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The FDA approval as a reason for people nor getting vaccinated is a strawman excuse used by your side. It’s not one promoted by most on the right.
Correct.
I'm sure there are plenty of people out there who've said "I'm waiting until the vaccine is FDA-approved."
For me, it has never been about whether it's approved or not. It's always been "hmm...it's kind of messed up that this shite is being pushed on people despite not even being FDA-approved."
The trust has already been lost, and FDA approval now only carries as much weight as a rubber stamp.
Had this vaccine situation been handled more responsibly, I would probably feel different. But at this point, I am definitely not taking it.
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Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:28 am to Revelator
No not that you guys are trusting the gov—it just was an easy slogan to adapt and that’s what happen. It was always bullshite but now that bullshite doesn’t apply you guys have to come up with something else. Hence your post trying to get ahead of the deal and get the think tank going on “what’s next”.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:29 am to The_Duke
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But like I said—-for months the saying on here ( and other conservative avenues) was “it’s not even FDA approved”—well now it is and they are trying to find another slogan to harp on. The goal post will keep moving—this is the modern versions of Pro-life vs Pro-choice.
For some, yes.
For me, I had COVID before the vaccine was even available to me. It is pointless to get it now.
That being said, I’m was leery of the hype concerning the vaccines. If I were over 70, I would have gotten one in spite of my reservations. I still laugh when people insist that they are safe long term. Are they probably safe, yes. But these asshats act like they climbed in a time machine, went forward 5 years, came back, and are now enlightening me with “future facts.” No offense, but at the time, I probably would have passed even if the opportunity had presented itself the get vaccinated. To be fair, with the Delta variant, I would have given the vaccine more consideration.
TLDR
If you have underlying health issues and haven’t already recovered from COVID, then I suggest that you consider getting vaccinated.
Oh, and frick a mandate.
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 6:31 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:30 am to The_Duke
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No not that you guys are trusting the gov—it just was an easy slogan to adapt and that’s what happen. It was always bull shite but now that bull shite doesn’t apply you guys have to come up with something else. Hence your post trying to get ahead of the deal and get the think tank going on “what’s next”.
Here is the bottom line, the Duke, I don’t need anyone’s approval or mandate for me to decide what goes in my body.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:31 am to The_Duke
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Pro-life vs Pro-choice.
Well to be fair, Pro-choice actually applies in this case bc the decision actually only affects one person. In the other pro-choice debate, one living person in the equation actually has no choice at all.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:32 am to Revelator
Well good for you, Revelator
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 6:35 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:33 am to STEVED00
—-but does it really only affect one person?
I’ve said this many times no one care if you decide to not get vaccinated. We only care when you run to the hospital because you are sick.
Just go curl up in the corner somewhere and tough it out and let nature do it’s thing
I’ve said this many times no one care if you decide to not get vaccinated. We only care when you run to the hospital because you are sick.
Just go curl up in the corner somewhere and tough it out and let nature do it’s thing
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 6:34 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:35 am to The_Duke
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I’ve said this many times no one care if you decide to not get vaccinated. We only care when you run to the hospital because you are sick.
Do you apply this same standard to the obese, those who don’t exercise, those with bad eating habits, those with risky hobbies, etc.?
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 6:36 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:37 am to East Coast Band
I think it’s silly and childish to blame any one president. I think Trump did an amazing job.
But here you are looking to take a point from Biden when Trump was the one going full steam ahead on this.
I wonder if he was in office how would you all be taking this vaccine thing.
Tumors ego wouldn’t allow something he created to be out down by his very own base
But here you are looking to take a point from Biden when Trump was the one going full steam ahead on this.
I wonder if he was in office how would you all be taking this vaccine thing.
Tumors ego wouldn’t allow something he created to be out down by his very own base
This post was edited on 8/11/21 at 6:38 am
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:38 am to Revelator
Add to the list a long line of corrupt government agencies that leftards blindly trust.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:41 am to The_Duke
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I’ve said this many times no one care if you decide to not get vaccinated. We only care when you run to the hospital because you are sick.
Just go curl up in the corner somewhere and tough it out and let nature do it’s thing
So, it’s really about accountability for personal choice in your view. Does the same logic apply to other folks in need of medical care like meth heads, baby mommas, the uneducated that have poor jobs with no healthcare, vaccinated encountering a breakthrough variant, etc.
We are talking about a vaccine for a virus with a high survival rate in the aggregate and that is not mandatory….yet.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:43 am to Little Trump
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Forcing us to take it then still break Nuremberg Code? Probably so
Which part?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:43 am to Revelator
Obesity numbers have never put us in a shutdown
And you keep changing the argument. Your initial statement was “why do others care if I’m vaccinated or not”
Well I just told you why and I gave you an out for us to not care as well. Stop driving the data up
And you keep changing the argument. Your initial statement was “why do others care if I’m vaccinated or not”
Well I just told you why and I gave you an out for us to not care as well. Stop driving the data up
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:46 am to Revelator
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This a a mantra that’s been spouted by the MSM, not the Right
You can find people saying it in just about every vaccine thread here and on the OT board and it’s not MSM watchers saying it.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:46 am to The_Duke
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And you keep changing the argument. Your initial statement was “why do others care if I’m vaccinated or not”
And you brought up the concern of hospital capacity and cost. You opened up that debate.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:47 am to SammyTiger
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You can find people saying it in just about every vaccine thread here and on the OT board and it’s not MSM watchers saying it.
Please show me conservatives that are saying,” the thing keeping me from getting the vaccine is government approval?!”
Come on man!
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:49 am to The_Duke
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I’ve said this many times no one care if you decide to not get vaccinated. We only care when you run to the hospital because you are sick.
In a Socialist healthcare system, social accountability is a big thing. But, I’ve paid premiums for years for services not rendered, any hospitalizations in my future aren’t anyone’s business.
Alternatively, I’d say any health issues down the road resulting from the vaccine should be paid out of pocket. AI issues, cardiomyopathy, etc. That statement would make me an a-hole, right?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:52 am to Revelator
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Please show me conservatives that are saying,” the thing keeping me from getting the vaccine is government approval?!”
Come on man!
They heard:
"It's not even FDA-approved."
...and interpreted that to mean:
"We don't know if it's safe until it's FDA-approved."
That's a misinterpretation.
It's more about governmental hypocrisy and bullshite.
What weight does FDA approval carry anymore if we literally have evidence staring us right in the face that it doesn't fricking matter if something is FDA-approved or not before being forced down our throats?
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:54 am to Revelator
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Without any long term studies on MRNA vaccines,
This vaccine is new but we have about twenty years of data on previous mRNA vaccines.
Posted on 8/11/21 at 6:55 am to jonnyanony
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This vaccine is new but we have about twenty years of data on previous mRNA vaccines.
In humans?
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