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What number determines "mass" shootings?

Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:29 am
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:29 am
is there a specific number that determines if it's considered a "mass" shooting or not? NOLA pops about 3-5 shootings/killings per week. just wondering how many at one time justifies the news calling it a "mass".
Posted by CrimsonJazz
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:31 am to
I had read somewhere that the magic number is three. Since gang-shootings routinely involve three or more, it does artificially inflate claims of a high number of "mass shootings."
Posted by oldcharlie8
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:33 am to
quote:

I had read somewhere that the magic number is three. Since gang-shootings routinely involve three or more, it does artificially inflate claims of a high number of "mass shootings."


gotcha. so, it has to be three at a time for the media to pick it up? i mean........if it's 47 in three months, it don't count right?
Posted by PsychTiger
Member since Jul 2004
99001 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:35 am to
The number is important, but the races of the shooter and victims are the biggest criteria.
Posted by CrimsonJazz
Member since Dec 2014
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:37 am to
quote:

gotcha. so, it has to be three at a time for the media to pick it up? i mean........if it's 47 in three months, it don't count right?


Data relevance seems to hinge on presentation. It is true that facts are facts, but when you have a public to mislead, any fact can be presented in a way that completely changes perception.
Posted by dstone12
Texan
Member since Jan 2007
30246 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:37 am to
One



white shooter.
Posted by sta4ever
The Pit
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:37 am to
The number doesn’t matter, it’s the race of the shooter that determines that.
Posted by cokebottleag
I’m a Santos Republican
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:38 am to
It’s not the number, it’s the color of the shooter and the color of the victims. If either one is black, it’s not a mass shooting.
Posted by T
Member since Jan 2004
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:39 am to
Over 3 if the shooter is non-black.

Over 9 if the shooter is black.
Posted by lake chuck fan
westlake
Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:39 am to
Not sure what the "official" answer is, but seems the particular races involved determines how the shooting is defined. Unless its a school shooting involving a "weapon of war".
Posted by REB BEER
Laffy Yet
Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:42 am to
I was once told 2 or more. Then I started doing some research, and the criteria is all over the place depending on who you talk to. Some say 3 or more and at least 1 has to die, but I don't know what these idiots on the news channels go by.
Posted by VADawg
Wherever
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:47 am to
quote:

What number determines "mass" shootings?


Color of shooter determines if it is considered a mass shooting or not.
Posted by SammyTiger
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Feb 2009
66503 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 9:52 am to
If 1 person killed 47 people in a month it might make the news.
Posted by oldcharlie8
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2012
7806 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:01 am to
quote:

If 1 person killed 47 people in a month it might make the news.




good point.
Posted by ourkansastigah
behind enemy lines
Member since Feb 2015
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:32 am to
depends on race of victims
Posted by ksayetiger
Centenary Gents
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:45 am to
Depends on who the shooter is.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
Member since May 2005
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Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:45 am to
I heard a reporter on America's First News last week who wrote a big article on it.
He said the official count for 'mass' is 4. Using that number he discovered that 85% of mass shootings in the U.S. over the past 2 years has been black gangs.
Posted by AggieHank86
Texas
Member since Sep 2013
42941 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 10:51 am to
quote:

What number determines "mass" shootings?
is there a specific number that determines if it's considered a "mass" shooting or not?
No.

Different people/groups use different thresholds, but the most-common seems to be "4 people shot, excluding the perp."

LINK
This post was edited on 6/23/22 at 10:52 am
Posted by TSLG
Member since Mar 2014
6724 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:41 am to
Every one of you has a magic box in your pocket.

Look it up! You can easily find these answers if you really want.
Posted by scurvydawg
College Station
Member since Sep 2018
130 posts
Posted on 6/23/22 at 11:45 am to
This is a time investment, but if you can you should listen to Paul Harrel on this topic:

Paul Harrel - YouTube
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