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re: What lies did Trump tell?
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:14 pm to frogtown
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:14 pm to frogtown
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Ultimately it is a tax on American consumers who get the bill in the end.
I would argue it creates more manufacturing opportunity for americam citizens, thus creating jobs and building an economy. An bigger economy raises wages (which happened under trump) compared with net wage loss under biden
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:16 pm to frogtown
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Ultimately it is a tax on American consumers who get the bill in the end.
How much more on daily used goods did we pay under Trump
You clown tards never answer. Its always we paid billions more cause CNN said so
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:23 pm to Grigio
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Can you come up with an actual lie
They just listed a bunch of them.
Why they didn't get accomplished is completely irrelevant. He said he would do something, he didn't.
In many cases he didn't ever have the intent to. You will not be convinced with evidence, so just move along.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:23 pm to PaperTiger
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China didnt pay tariffs under Trump?
No. As an importer of goods from China, I paid the tariffs and passed those costs on to my customers. How did you think it would work?
As an exporter of goods to China, they didn't pay tariffs. They just stopped buying our goods. They bought soybeans from Brazil, lumber from Europe, etc.
Even when we lowered our prices to make up for the 25%, the Chinese wouldn't buy the material. They were prohibited from doing so by their government.
Trump thought he could win a trade war. Against a centrally planned economy and a totalitarian dictatorship. He didn't know what he was talking about. He lost. And the American Ag commodity producers paid the price.
The trade imbalance with China is worse than ever. Trump's trade war accomplished nothing.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:25 pm to LSUconvert
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Why they didn't get accomplished is completely irrelevant. He said he would do something, he didn't. In many cases he didn't ever have the intent to. You will not be convinced with evidence, so just move along.
perfect example of what i was talking about in my previous post. unfulfilled campaign promises arent really "lies" unless he 100% did not intend to fulfill them, and since none of us are mind readers, we dont know for sure. that is hardly "evidence" of a lie.
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Why they didn't get accomplished is completely irrelevant
if you're saying they are objective "lies" then the why is ENTIRELY relevant.
This post was edited on 11/21/23 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:26 pm to SDVTiger
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How much more on daily used goods did we pay under Trump
Did China pay tariffs moron?
Or did the companies importing Chinese products pay them?(who in turn passed the price increase unto the American consumer).
This is basic ECON 101.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:26 pm to ApexTiger
"I'm going to build the wall and have Mexico pay for it"
HE LITERALLY ADMITTED OUT LOUD IN THE PAST MONTH HE WAS LYING
He said flat out he knew there was no legal way to do it but it sounded good
And of course, you all ignored it, too funny.
He also said he was going to prosecute Hillary Clinton and then IMMEDIATELY after winning said he wasn't.
HE LITERALLY ADMITTED OUT LOUD IN THE PAST MONTH HE WAS LYING
He said flat out he knew there was no legal way to do it but it sounded good
And of course, you all ignored it, too funny.
He also said he was going to prosecute Hillary Clinton and then IMMEDIATELY after winning said he wasn't.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:28 pm to Fun Bunch
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HE LITERALLY ADMITTED OUT LOUD IN THE PAST MONTH HE WAS LYING
what did he say? genuinely asking. i missed it.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:30 pm to ApexTiger
It’s mind boggling to me how the same people who constantly complained about Trump lying seem to have zero problems with the lies that Biden has said…..lies that have been infinitely more substantial.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:30 pm to Grigio
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2 Weeks to Stop the Spread"
"I'm going to build the Wall and have Mexico pay for it"
"Lock her up!"
"I'm going to Drain the Swamp"
How many of those were blocked by the Republicans in Congress and DOJ?
(Hint: all of them)
Can you come up with an actual lie or just campaign issues blocked by the cucks you have voted for your entire life?
Trump is the one who promised 2 Weeks and when he did he said he knew we would be hit but we needed 2 Weeks to prepare. Then he decided to go buy into the narrative of looking at case numbers and deaths with no plan for how that was going to end until he bought into the "Operation Warp Speed" crap. You can say it was hard because people would have said mean things about him and that's fine but it also shows he let us all down when we needed him most and he did it by violating the trust we put in him to lead and stand up to the Left.
He could have used remittances just like DeSantis plans to for getting Mexico to pay for the Wall. Of course once again people would have said mean things about him and it was hard.
He could have absolutely instructed his DOJ to charge Hillary. Of course once again people would have said mean things about him and it was hard.
He could have done a LOT more to drain the Swamp. He just appointed terrible people around him and never even tried to introduce any Legislation or meaningful reforms to do so. the most he did was cut some regulations and move the Bureau of Land Management to Colorado.
He lied because he either had no intention of doing any of that or he lied because he meant to but saw it was going to be hard so he just blamed it on everyone else why he couldn't do it.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:31 pm to Sam Quint
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since none of us are mind readers, we dont know for sure
What you're positing here is that no one can identify a liar.
That's probably just a projection on your part.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:32 pm to ApexTiger
He said Hillary Clinton was Beautiful.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:32 pm to Sam Quint
He admitted in October that he knew there was no legal mechanism to make them pay for the wall.
He then tried 3 weeks later to say that he actually never said they would.
He then tried 3 weeks later to say that he actually never said they would.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:34 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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It’s mind boggling to me how the same people who constantly complained about Trump lying seem to have zero problems with the lies that Biden has said…..lies that have been infinitely more substantial.
Everyone in here talking about it except convert is a Republican that voted for him twice.
Its alright to be pissed that the dude lied his arse off and knew it.
Its alright be pissed that he just tells the mob what they want to hear and then never, EVER does it.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:35 pm to frogtown
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This is basic ECON 101.
Found the problem.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:35 pm to aggressor
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I'm going to build the Wall and have Mexico pay for it
The truth is that Mexico ended up building a wall made of their own army. Where is that today? Gone Jack!
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:36 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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It’s mind boggling to me how the same people who constantly complained about Trump lying seem to have zero problems with the lies that Biden has said…..lies that have been infinitely more substantial.
We dislike both, arse
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:37 pm to LSUconvert
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What you're positing here is that no one can identify a liar. That's probably just a projection on your part.
that's not what i said at all. people can and do get caught lying all the time. what i'm saying is that regarding a campaign promise, unless he admits it (which in this case, it seems he may have recently?), there is no way to be sure of his intent. probably every politician in the last hundred years has made campaign promises that they know will be very hard if not impossible to fulfill. are they all liars? by your criteria, maybe so. and i might agree. but if so, then why are we stuck on Trump being some kind of anomaly?
also, not sure how accusing me of projection is relevant, but ok.
Posted on 11/21/23 at 1:37 pm to HonoraryCoonass
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It’s mind boggling to me how the same people who constantly complained about Trump lying seem to have zero problems with the lies that Biden has said…..lies that have been infinitely more substantial.
Who are you talking about? If it's the board Leftists, yeah - good but obvious point. If you're talking about non-Leftists, which of them have zero problems with Biden's lies?
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