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What if Putin’s strategy is more complex
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:55 pm
Posted on 5/14/22 at 8:55 pm
He knew the US wouldn’t be able to resist a proxy war. With Finland and other countries joining NATO potentially, I think this about drawing the US in and forcing it to overextend itself, the way the Soviet Union had to do before it finally collapsed. I think he is betting that the US will try to take on too much protection for Europe, while continuing to explode its debt.
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:01 pm to DyeHardDylan
You’re thinking about it on about a level 7, whereas the average approach to it ia about a level 3. I can withstand the heat for that hyperbole, but I’m just letting you know so you don’t spend too much time on that. .
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:07 pm to DyeHardDylan
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:10 pm to DyeHardDylan
Anyone who's ever played Risk knows that Putin's strategy is more complex than what the media and public is saying.
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Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:25 pm to TerryDawg03
I don't agree with you terry, I think you overestimate him.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:31 pm to Eurocat
I think you underestimate him.
The Russians have been playing nice nice, but that won't last forever. Their style is blitzkrieg, and nobody knows why they are deviating yet.
The Russians have been playing nice nice, but that won't last forever. Their style is blitzkrieg, and nobody knows why they are deviating yet.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:36 pm to Eurocat
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I don't agree with you terry, I think you overestimate him.
Respectfully disagree. I think he's being vastly underestimated by the media and the public. There's a reason Russia was known for chess masters.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:36 pm to DyeHardDylan
It was never about drawing the usa in. It was the other way around. If you listen to our news media, you are basically listening to Tokyo Rose.do it at your own peril.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:37 pm to Eurocat
Just the fact that we really haven’t gotten any actual confirmed insight into the goals, schemes, thought processes, strategies etc is rather notable in my opinion. How often does the U.S. and the rest of the west have to speculate so much as to an adversary’s inner workings? And to the point of “well isn’t it likely that our intelligence community has that type of info and we just aren’t aware” I’d say I wouldn’t believe that there would’ve been no leaks whatsoever between our own government as well as those of the other NATO countries either by “accident” or by design. Seems to me that Putin’s running a pretty tight ship, responding to the changing circumstances on the ground as is normal, and hasn’t tipped his hand with any publicly disclosed blunders and such.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 9:39 pm to DyeHardDylan
Early strategy was a “soft” blitz of the major cities that would quickly cause the government of Ukraine to collapse or capitulate with most infrastructure intact.
When that failed, they withdrew their forces and redeployed them in the east and south, fighting a war of attrition, seeking to besiege and crush the Ukrainian army. This has had mixed results at best.
When that failed, they withdrew their forces and redeployed them in the east and south, fighting a war of attrition, seeking to besiege and crush the Ukrainian army. This has had mixed results at best.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:25 pm to davyjones
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How often does the U.S. and the rest of the west have to speculate so much as to an adversary’s inner workings . . . . Seems to me that Putin’s running a pretty tight ship
Except US intelligence was spot on regarding Russia’s intention to launch a whole scale invasion into the Ukraine and seems to know where most high level Russian officers sleep when visiting Ukraine.
February 20 - US intelligence tells world invasion has been ordered
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:44 pm to DyeHardDylan
This is a horrible take
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:46 pm to ned nederlander
Fair enough but not exactly what I was getting at, which is that as far as I’ve heard nobody is actually certain of Putin’s ‘goal’ or ‘endgame’. Lots of speculation from the pundits and such, but only that. Just seems like an awful lot to be desired by our supposedly renowned intelligence community.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:47 pm to DyeHardDylan
Nah, this is the globalists drawing Putin out.
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:49 pm to bigblake
The real target for Russia is the east and south where there is some support there. The troops that went to Kyiv and sat there were to distract Ukraine’s military
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:52 pm to ned nederlander
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Except US intelligence was spot on regarding Russia’s intention to launch a whole scale invasion into the Ukraine and seems to know where most high level Russian officers sleep when visiting Ukraine
The US had already set up shop before Putin even made a move. They were waiting for him
Posted on 5/14/22 at 11:56 pm to DyeHardDylan
the only strategy is that Putin, Biden, etc are all puppets. all of them. those billions of dollars of aid are what it's all about. bankers, politicians, and military suppliers all getting paid. nothing more, nothing less. stop being naive and blind. shite this has been happening for hundreds of years. it's the same shite over and over. all these wars are created and financed by European bankers, the leaders being the Rothchilds. Russia, Ukraine, and the US are all on the same side: the greedy side.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:03 am to xxTIMMYxx
My memory isn’t what it used to be, but I recall the Biden people (Kirby) warning’ of ‘impending’ this and ‘imminent’ that for about a two week window. Maybe every other day or more. So I hate to be down on the home team, but that wasn’t exactly shocking news. Hell I could’ve done that.
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Posted on 5/15/22 at 12:27 am to DyeHardDylan
Not completely out of the question. That's far more likely than the "Russia is running out of gas and Putler miscalculated. Russia weak!". Please, Putin prepped for this for well over 10 years. Whatever is happening it's well planned. As hard as our media has been pushing the North Korean style propaganda I have assumed Russia is doing extremely well
Ukraine could have very well offered uo Azov. Azov had served their purpose and grown too influential. It was a massive problem for Ukr, Russia, and the US. That's a win for all the big players involved and they all make billions.
Ukraine could have very well offered uo Azov. Azov had served their purpose and grown too influential. It was a massive problem for Ukr, Russia, and the US. That's a win for all the big players involved and they all make billions.
Posted on 5/15/22 at 1:07 am to texas tortilla
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It was never about drawing the usa in. It was the other way around. If you listen to our news media, you are basically listening to Tokyo Rose.do it at your own peril.
This is correct. We baited him in. Not the other way around. This is happening because of us. No other reason. He was just dumb enough to not realize it wasn't a bluff.
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