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What does "on the autism spectrum" mean?

Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:33 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 4:33 am
Isnt there a Zero on all scales or spectrums, meaning we are all on the autism spectrum?

Has anyone verified greta's claim or is this verified by 17 intelligence agencies?

Its an easy out for absurd behavior.
Posted by MMauler
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 5:05 am to
Basically, it typically means the person is a Dimocrat.
Posted by scottfruget
Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 5:05 am to
It means you must see the world as an avaragarian. All things and people judged against the average. I like to think of people as unique individuals.
Posted by JPinLondon
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 5:18 am to
HOW DARE YOU?!?!?!?!
Posted by TenWheelsForJesus
Member since Jan 2018
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:18 am to
"On the spectrum" is what parents say to feel better about having dumb or awkward kids. It's now hip to say you are "on the spectrum" because you get praised for doing the common things normal people do every day.

Yes, there are many cases of autism. Most claims are simply overblown. Kids with real autism have difficulty functioning in society. They can't look people in the eyes and have an extreme need for routine, for instance. Someone with autism (or even Asperger's) would not be able to stand in front of cameras and large groups of people and make a coherent speech without significant practice/experience. "On the spectrum" gets thrown around for everyone with slight problems. Unless you have immense problems, you're just an awkward person, and that is fine. This ridiculous need to diagnose everyone that isn't completely normal as having a disease needs to end.

Just like saying your kid has ADHD. No, he's just a hyper kid which is normal. You just want to explain away his behavior as a medical condition and not do any actual parenting. Somewhere along the way, a lot of parents decided to stop disciplining their kids.

If I was born 20 years later, I would have been doped up with meds. My teachers just learned to give me more work so I always had something to focus on.

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But this is not a story about Asperger’s, autism, or the spectrum—those very real afflictions that can bring untold hardship to the people who suffer from them and to their families. It is, instead, a story about “Asperger’s,” “autism,” and “the spectrum”—our one-stop-shopping shorthand for the jerky husband, the socially inept plutocrat, the tactless boss, the child prodigy with no friends, the remorseless criminal. It’s about the words we deploy to describe some murky hybrid of egghead and aloof.

Like the actual clinical disorder, the cultural epidemic in scare quotes may have less to do with changes in the world than with changes in those seeing it. To some degree, the spectrum is our way of making sense of an upended social topography, a buckled landscape where nerd titans hold the high ground once occupied by square-jawed captains of industry, a befuddling digital world overrun with trolls and avatars and social-media “rock stars” who are nothing like actual rock stars. It is, as the amateur presidential shrinks would have it, a handy phrase for the distant, cerebral men with the ambition and self-possession necessary to mount a serious run for the White House. When quants and engineers are ascendant, when algorithms trump the liberal arts, when Kim Kardashian and Justin Bieber tweet about the death of Steve Jobs, when the hyperspecialist has displaced the generalist and everyone is Matrix-ed into the Internet, it’s an Other-deriding tool to soothe our cultural anxiety about the ongoing power shift from humanists to technologists. As the coders inherit the Earth, saying someone’s on the spectrum is how English majors make themselves feel better.


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The diagnosis is everywhere: Facebook’s former head of engineering has stated that Mark Zuckerberg has “a touch of the Asperger’s.” Time suggested that the intensely awkward Bill Gates is autistic; a biographer of Warren Buffett wrote that the Oracle of Omaha, with his prodigious memory and “fascination with numbers,” has “a vaguely autistic aura.” On Celebrity Rehab, Dr. Drew Pinsky deemed Dennis Rodman (selectively hyperfocused, socially obtuse) a candidate for an Asperger’s diagnosis, and the UCLA specialist brought in to make it official “seemed to concur,” Pinsky told viewers. On the Asperger’s community site Wrong Planet, threads like “Real life celebrities who have or probably have Asperger’s” include Jim Carrey, Adolf Hitler, Daryl Hannah, Slash, Billy Joel, J.?K. Rowling, and Adam Carolla, who makes the cut because “I’ve heard guests on his podcast remark on his lack of eye contact.” “Kanye Probably Has Asperger’s,” BuzzFeed recently declared.


People also claim Romney and Obama are on the spectrum because of a couple verbal missteps. It has reached absurd proportions.

LINK

-TLDR-
Most claims of being "on the spectrum" are bullshite.
Posted by Flats
Member since Jul 2019
28023 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:23 am to
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"On the spectrum" gets thrown around for everyone with slight problems.


This. The beauty of it is that since it's analog and not digital, you can make the claim for just about anyone. It's absolutely true that autism presents in a lot of different ways, and there are mild cases and severe cases and everything in between. But you're 100% correct, it's a phrase that's just abused willy-nilly these days.
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
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Member since Sep 2018
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Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:24 am to
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What does "on the autism spectrum" mean?


Nobody has outright autism anymore. They are "on the spectrum". Watch the Netflix series Atypical (it's pretty good). It's about a high functioning young person who is "on the spectrum". I didn't know the term till I watched the show. And I don't think I've ever been around anyone with autism as far as I knew. Or shall I say I've not been around anyone who's "on the spectrum".
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:26 am to
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Its an easy out for absurd behavior.




You’ve broken the code. There’s a whole group of parents who are trying to get their children classified with some sort of disability to work the free money, educational assistance and special accommodation, or preferential hiring angle.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 7:26 am
Posted by aTmTexas Dillo
East Texas Lake
Member since Sep 2018
23869 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:32 am to
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You’ve broken the code. There’s a whole group of parents who are trying to get their children classified with some sort of disability to work the free money, educational assistance and special accommodation, or preferential hiring angle.


Comment is funny but there are a number of actors on the show who are "on the spectrum". They are very clearly processing things differently than most of us. It is a real thing.
Posted by Diamondawg
Mississippi
Member since Oct 2006
38267 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:34 am to
I don't know a whole lot about it but it's pretty real. I think "on the spectrum" means at what level of functionality does one have with their autism. I know some people that can't function at all and others that are probably high functioning Asperger's and do well with their careers albeit somewhat awkward at times (or almost always). I know other Asperger's (a young friend of ours) that actually has a college degree but doesn't drive and can't really function in a job. Lots is made of this girl and I don't know much about her other than being exploiting by most everyone, especially her parents. She is a nut job but I don't judge everyone that's somewhere "on the spectrum" based on her exploits.
Posted by geaux88
Northshore, LA
Member since Oct 2003
16355 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:40 am to
There is an educational video put out by Parker and Stone in animated format called “South Park.” Look for the full episode, as it will give you a full and scientific explanation of Greta’s condition. I’ll provide an excerpt below:

On the spectrum
Posted by JumpingTheShark
America
Member since Nov 2012
24831 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:47 am to
It’s a real diagnosis that gets abused and misused by lots of people, similar to self-diagnosing OCD.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:47 am to
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Comment is funny but there are a number of actors on the show who are "on the spectrum". They are very clearly processing things differently than most of us. It is a real thing.



Didn’t intend for it to be funny. There is a whole movement to try and medicalize this crap these days. Had a one year old on Risperdal that mom brought in for a med refill, because some quack child psychiatrist had dropped a diagnosis of bipolar disorder on a perfectly normal kid who couldn’t even talk yet.

People have processed things differently and functioned differently throughout human history without falsely medicalizing it.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 7:52 am
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 7:54 am to
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I know other Asperger's (a young friend of ours) that actually has a college degree but doesn't drive and can't really function in a job


Think about that statement for a minute. No, think about that for ten minutes. Who is bullshitting you...your young friend, the college that granted the degree, or the person who diagnosed him?

I think I’m slowly turning into the Sam Kinison version of Jordan Peterson.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 8:02 am
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:02 am to
When they say on the spectrum they mean something that affects their daily life. My 8 year old is on the spectrum, and as an example, for the longest time he couldn't use public restrooms because he was afraid of loud noises. (Apparently the automatic toilet flushing scared him). He had to wear noise cancelling headphones at school. Every time we used the restroom in public, he had his hands over his ears. I had to warn him before it would flush. There is no disciplining that can 'fix' that. He's not doing anything wrong.

But just out of the blue, one day at school he told his teacher he doesn't need the headphones anymore. She texted us immediately, we were so happy for him, my wife was in tears. Eventually, they outgrow it.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79805 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:03 am to
quote:

What does "on the autism spectrum" mean?
It means the Saints will get another solid late season pickup when a player labels a fan as "on the spectrum" when that is considered an insult in 5-10 years.
This post was edited on 12/17/19 at 8:04 am
Posted by trinidadtiger
Member since Jun 2017
19881 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:14 am to
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I think I’m slowly turning into the Sam Kinison version of Jordan Peterson.


Thats funny Boatshoes. On a sidenote, I saw a documentary on Rodney Dangerfield, Sam Kinison REALLY credited him for starting his career. At the end of Rodney's life Sam was visiting him and his wife commented that she wished more of his cronies would. Sam said he had talked to them and they thought he wanted to be left alone. She said quite the contrary Sam. Next thing you know Sam had arranged a on going flow of comics doing standup for a one man audience....Rodney, very cool story. Sorry back to the thread...
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
79805 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:15 am to
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 Had a one year old on Risperdal that mom brought in for a med refill, because some quack child psychiatrist had dropped a diagnosis of bipolar disorder 
Wow. I'd love to know the name of that quack.
Posted by Sneaky__Sally
Member since Jul 2015
12364 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:17 am to
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They are very clearly processing things differently than most of us. It is a real thing


Ya, I'm sure there are abuses to the system, but there are a lot of well functioning people who benefit a whole lot if education in particular identifies area they struggle and helps them succeed.

Posted by The Maj
Member since Sep 2016
30551 posts
Posted on 12/17/19 at 8:18 am to
The world was simpler when "retarded" was acceptable...

What have we moved through... "mentally deficient", "mentally challenged", "learning disabilities",...., now "on the autism spectrum"...
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