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re: What do you think it means to believe in science?

Posted on 2/1/17 at 10:51 am to
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 10:51 am to
You seem to be under the impression that he has any credibility on the question.
Posted by NC_Tigah
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 10:59 am to
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Can we get back to the demon sword fights at some point?
FWIW, I'd guess beejon is the guy you're thinking of
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 11:11 am to
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OMLandshark is a typical skeptic.



Sure, because being skeptical of something that is clearly retarded with any basic reasoning is a bad thing.
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 11:22 am to
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It is an amazing animal that is obviously smart enough to keep itself hidden from other animals including humans.
It can't outsmart dawgfaninca though. It has met its match!
Posted by buckeye_vol
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 11:34 am to
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That's what the skeptics said to Copernicus and Columbus.
Wait are you equating skepticism over the a spherical earth--which was a minority viewpoint; counter the prevailing scientific views--with skepticism over a large sea serpent swimming in one of the most populous regions of earth and has only been observed by a select few?

I don't even understand how you think the skepticism is even comparable?
Posted by Dale51
Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 11:55 am to
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I don't even understand how you think the skepticism is even comparable?



You're conflating a specific example with the concept of scientific skepticism being the engine that keeps actual science moving forward.

It's not that complicated.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:03 pm to
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Wait are you equating skepticism over the a spherical earth--which was a minority viewpoint; counter the prevailing scientific views--with skepticism over a large sea serpent swimming in one of the most populous regions of earth and has only been observed by a select few?


Your sentence is hard to understand but I believe I know what you were trying to say.

I was only referring to the skeptics at the time whether or not they were scientists or in the minority who still believed the Earth was flat who would say to Copernicus and Columbus "You are fricking nuts!" just like a poster here who is a skeptic said to me, "You are fricking nuts!"

BTW, how many people does it take to be what you claim are "a select few"?

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I don't even understand how you think the skepticism is even comparable?


There's a lot that you don't understand.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:11 pm to
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It is an amazing animal that is obviously smart enough to keep itself hidden from other animals including humans.


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It can't outsmart dawgfaninca though. It has met its match!


The animal was too busy chasing the sea lion to notice my brother and I were sitting in our car watching it.

The animal wouldn't have gone where it did if it wasn't for the sea lion bringing it there by swimming towards the nearest shore to try to get away from it which we were lucky enough to be parked at.
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:13 pm to
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Your sentence is hard to understand


A lack of understanding is pretty par for the course for you.

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I was only referring to the skeptics at the time whether or not they were scientists or in the minority who still believed the Earth was flat who would say to Copernicus and Columbus "You are fricking nuts!" just like a poster here who is a skeptic said to me, "You are fricking nuts!"


The question if the Earth was round had about as much bearing to Columbus' voyages as they did for the Apollo missions, which is to say none at all. Sure maybe some Serbs in the mountains thought that the world was flat at the time, but sailors, no they knew the world was round, as did kings, queens, and everyone in between. I highly doubt this was ever even brought up at all.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:17 pm to
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FWIW, I'd guess beejon is the guy you're thinking of


Some people have been playing this game that I am beejon in their lame attempt to ridicule me.

They will keep playing this game even though they know I'm not beejon.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:22 pm to
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Columbus


No one during Columbus' time believed the Earth was flat.

Columbus was just too stupid to figure out that the Earth was bigger than his estimates (which is what everyone kept trying to explain to him).
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:23 pm to
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What do you think it means to believe in science?


Well, Trump believes vaccines cause autism.

So, there's that.
Posted by TrueTiger
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Member since Sep 2004
80112 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:26 pm to
how many people who believe that anthropomorphic global warming is a significant problem

AND

believe that Bruce Jenner is of the female gender?
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:33 pm to
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You seem to be under the impression that he has any credibility on the question.


You seem to be under the mis-impression that I care what you think about Dr. Heuvelmans' credibility.

At least Dr. Heuvelmans was a scientist who had a doctorate in Zoology.

What degrees do you have in the field of science?

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Heuvelmans was born on 10 October 1916, in Le Havre, France, and raised in Belgium and earned a doctorate in zoology from the Free University of Brussels (now split into the Université Libre de Bruxelles and the Vrije Universiteit Brussel).

LINK
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 12:35 pm
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:50 pm to
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No one during Columbus' time believed the Earth was flat.


bullshite.

There's even people living today who still believe the Earth is flat.
LINK

Now stop going off on your bullshite tangent about how many people believed the Earth was flat during Columbus' time in your lame attempt to discredit and ridicule me.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 12:53 pm to
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Bull shite.

There's even people living today who still believe the Earth is flat.
LINK

Now stop going off on your bull shite tangent about how many people believed the Earth was flat during Columbus' time in your lame attempt to discredit and ridicule me.


Oh, my bad.

There was no one educated with a modicum of intelligence who believed the Earth was flat - and certainly none of the debates regarding his trip over the Atlantic had anything to do with a possible flat Earth.

Just because people believe something today doesn't make it more likely they believed it hundreds of years ago.
Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 1:01 pm to
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Sure, because being skeptical of something that is clearly retarded with any basic reasoning is a bad thing.


Your comment is prima facie evidence which proves you are close-minded about whether there is even a remote possibility that large unknown serpentine marine animals commonly called sea serpents exist.
LINK

That's very unscientific.

Posted by DawgfaninCa
San Francisco, California
Member since Sep 2012
20092 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 1:09 pm to
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Oh, my bad.

There was no one educated with a modicum of intelligence who believed the Earth was flat - and certainly none of the debates regarding his trip over the Atlantic had anything to do with a possible flat Earth.

Just because people believe something today doesn't make it more likely they believed it hundreds of years ago.


This bullshite tangent you have gone on does not negate my point which is there are several people in the past who were told, "You are fricking nuts!" for what they believed whose belief turned out to be correct.
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
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Posted on 2/1/17 at 1:13 pm to
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How many genders are there?
well technically gender is a social construct, not a biological term. there are (typically) 2 sexes in the human species, although external genitalia do not always match the dna due to various abnormalities. Certain eastern cultures define a male gender, female gender, and neuter. Certain islamic cultures classify boys as females until puberty (primarily so they can use then for sex and not be gay in their minds).
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/1/17 at 1:16 pm to
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This bullshite tangent you have gone on does not negate my point which is there are several people in the past who were told, "You are fricking nuts!" for what they believed whose belief turned out to be correct.



But people will believe fricking anything. Some people hear voices in their head to kill their families. Others believe giant breathing sea serpents exist, but that doesn't mean its mainstream belief or true at all. I doubt there was a single sentence uttered by anyone in the 1490s (non-sarcastically) from anyone involved in Columbus' journey that he'd fall off the Earth.

EDIT: And keep upvoting your own posts by the way. It's obvious to everyone.
This post was edited on 2/1/17 at 1:17 pm
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