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re: What do people who support Democrats get in return for their investment in them?

Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:30 am to
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295921 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:30 am to
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you are gonna need to provide an example of this type person


Thats a 1980s Democrat talking point.

Republicans are clearly the part representing the middle class right now. Dems gave that up for gender and race.
Posted by Chimlim
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Jul 2005
17773 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:30 am to
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Why oh why do they continue to vote to stay on the government plantation rather than look for something that actually benefits their condition?


Democrats have convinced them they are victims. They can't succeed on their own. They need government to survive.
Posted by Bass Tiger
Member since Oct 2014
53709 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:31 am to
Most of the people who support the Dim/Groomer/Transformer party are looking for some type of government handout/entitlement along with the abolition of society criticizing their debauched and sinful lifestyles.
Posted by TrueTiger
Chicken's most valuable
Member since Sep 2004
79952 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:31 am to
The left runs a spoils system.

It is dependent on being able to hand out goodies captured from people in the merit system.
Posted by Friscodog
Frisco, TX
Member since Jul 2009
4922 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:34 am to
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This! They live their entire lives, never having to work. Every day is Saturday for them. They can do whatever they want, any day, all day.

It’s no wonder that they get into all kinds of mischief like drug deals or all those kids due to having all of that free time.

Now, they never amass any wealth or security, but they don’t have to work. And, by now, it’s in its third generation of recipients.

They have chosen a life of leisure and just skating by over a life of work and the American dream.

Maybe this is the new American dream?




The problem is now "this" is not enough.. They want more.. Even though they "chose" their position and lot in life, they are saying it is because of slavery, systemic racism, etc. that they do not have more of the luxuries that working middle class or upper class have. It will never be enough.
Posted by Timeoday
Easter Island
Member since Aug 2020
17641 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:37 am to
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However, for the vast amount of Democrat voters out there, ESPECIALLY those on the lower end of the economic scale,


Because the above make up the vast majority who must have gooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooberment help, their vote is paid for by such help.

Of course, the vote counters, ballot box stuffers, and ballot collectors get their $15 an hour stipend as well.
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53692 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:40 am to
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What happens when you push tons of money to poor people? economically speaking.


They spend it, they don’t hoard more than they could ever need
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295921 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:40 am to
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They spend it, they don’t hoard more than they could ever need


They spend it quickly, do you know why?

What is the tradeoff?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295921 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:51 am to
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What is the tradeoff?


???
Posted by chalmetteowl
Chalmette
Member since Jan 2008
53692 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 7:58 am to
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They spend it quickly, do you know why?


Real wages going down and inflation going up?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295921 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:02 am to
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Real wages going down and inflation going up?


And wealth goes to select corporations.

Nothing changes, you get higher prices which makes everything unaffordable, and the wealth still goes to the top. Amazon, GM get larger. The wealth boom creates bubbles to where the middle class and poor will not be able to afford housing, etc.

It doesn't go to mom and pop business.

That doesn't even start to address dependency.

This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 8:04 am
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
76732 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:03 am to
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Real wages going down and inflation going up?


Are you trying to say poor people are actually fiscally responsible, and it's just the system keeping them poor?
Posted by idlewatcher
Planet Arium
Member since Jan 2012
92446 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:06 am to
Weird how no progs have chimed in in this thread.

You guys going to sit back and let us define you?
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295921 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:06 am to
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Of course, the vote counters, ballot box stuffers, and ballot collectors get their $15 an hour stipend as well.


They're having a youth environmental summit locally, paying kids to come.

Youth environmental summit, paid youth, future voters. They money used to prop up these groups comes from the taxpayer.
Posted by OccamsStubble
Member since Aug 2019
8859 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:08 am to
The cheese answer was correct
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 8:11 am
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295921 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:20 am to
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Weird how no progs have chimed in in this thread.



We have one "pay the people" response.
Posted by Bad Second Baseman
Member since Jun 2023
40 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:26 am to
Libraries, playgrounds, public transit, basic community things that Republicans are less eager to contribute to.

Biden country accounts for 71% of this country’s economic activity, so if you live in red country, thank a Democrat for subsidizing your entire existence.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
19409 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:27 am to
Promise of free stuff without having to work for it.
Posted by RogerTheShrubber
Juneau, AK
Member since Jan 2009
295921 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:32 am to
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Promise of free stuff without having to work for it.


Basic behaviorism explains why this is doomed to fail. Poor people who are fiscally irresponsible get money, don't work, buy a bunch of junk they'll sell off in a couple of months.


Wealth goes to the top. Poor stay poor. I don't see how an adult could possibly think throwing money at poor folks who have generationally proven they cannot handle their own affairs to be not very prudent.
This post was edited on 6/30/23 at 8:36 am
Posted by KAGTASTIC
Member since Feb 2022
7989 posts
Posted on 6/30/23 at 8:46 am to
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Human nature is not to delay gratification and get ahead. It is to get the easiest calories and shelter that you can procure. You are wondering why people would display perfectly natural and normal behavior.


This is especially the case for those of African decent as they stayed in place. Even today there are tribes that do that do this. As many just survive day by day.

European descendents ventured out so their creativity for long term survival created a way to fight the below natural response. Why euro-white innovation and natural exploration has created what we have today, so we can in turn destroy it.
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Human nature is not to delay gratification and get ahead.
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