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re: What Did Men Do to Deserve This? (Another take on the so-called man/boy crisis)
Posted on 11/15/25 at 3:21 am to GreatLakesTiger24
Posted on 11/15/25 at 3:21 am to GreatLakesTiger24
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send your daughters to college
This is when they get fully indoctrinated to progressive ideas
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Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:08 am to 4cubbies
That’s a ton of word salad that won’t amount to a hill of beans. Honestly, as simplistic as they are, the Amish do a more successful job of managing their worldly and spiritual life than all of our grand institutions of social and political theory. If “the pursuit of happiness “ is the ultimate goal, “one can tell a tree by the fruit that it bears”. Hell, the Cherokee may have been more happy than those who conquered them are. Problematic cultural aspects aside.
“Where there is no vision my people die”. It’s all about perception. “Behold, the kingdom of heaven is within “.
Hunter IS in ‘jail’. And he “can check out any time he wants, but he can never leave “. He earned it.
“Where there is no vision my people die”. It’s all about perception. “Behold, the kingdom of heaven is within “.
Hunter IS in ‘jail’. And he “can check out any time he wants, but he can never leave “. He earned it.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 4:24 am to RCDfan1950
quote:maybe simplicity is the key.
as simplistic as they are, the Amish do a more successful job of managing their worldly and spiritual life than all of our grand institutions of social and political theory.
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Hunter IS in ‘jail’. And he “can check out any time he wants, but he can never leave “. He earned it.
This is true for many, many people.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:23 am to 4cubbies
Love you Cubs. You bring it.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:28 am to 4cubbies
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When you’re ready to make a point, I’m happy to respond.
I have. Multiple times.
You are arguing dishonestly and irrelevantly, which I originally anticipated which is why I figured preemptively that we would have to establish the base of the argument to have a discussion.
I imagine you now realize the error of your ways (implying women didn't face institutional barriers to show the pre-1970s divergence) so you're now waiving the white flag and trying to spin it as some noble effort. At least the MAGA-tards do an emotional melt-tantrum outwardly and project some form of sincerity.
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I’m not participating in a Socratic seminar over the course of days so you can scratch whatever this itch is.
Shocker. When your spin is painted into a corner, requiring the most basic framing, you pull this
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:32 am to RCDfan1950
I found someone, y’all! Someone here likes me!
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:37 am to SlowFlowPro
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why I figured preemptively that we would have to establish the base of the argument to have a discussion.
But you’ve made no arguments. Just asked tons of questions. When I’ve asked for specifics, you responded with mockery and more questions.
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I imagine you now realize the error of your ways (implying women didn't face institutional barriers to show the pre-1970s divergence)
No. I’m under the impression you’re claiming men are facing institutional barriers preventing them from attending college. I’ve repeated this several times and you won’t address it so I can only make assumptions about what you’re vaguely arguing for.
quote:I’m sure you’ll respond with 17 more questions and no claim which will totally disprove what I “pulled.”
Shocker. When your spin is painted into a corner, requiring the most basic framing, you pull this
Posted on 11/15/25 at 7:45 am to Scruffy
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The premise of the article is that men/boys AND women/girls are struggling, but since women/girls are generally ignored, we only hear about men and boys "in crisis."
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What fricking universe do you live in?
It has been the exact opposite of that since the 60s.
On top of that, even if you consider the increase in discussions regarding male issues, still no one gives a shite.
This OP is the quintessential example of the feminist progressive mind.
“There is a crisis among young men…but women are really the ones suffering.”
You make me think of a clip I saw recently where an uneducated feminist was claiming that it wasn’t the men dying in war who were suffering, it was actually the women.
Agreed, though in a way 4cubbies is correct in the ‘girls/women are also struggling’ argument when you go one layer deeper:
girls/women ARE struggling, but ironically it’s due to the very effects of this freak-stage feminism.
As the pendulum swings back further towards sanity this business will right itself.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 8:22 am to 4cubbies
Ha Cubs. Guess I’ve stepped in it. My wife says I throw the Love word around like sliced bread in that I ‘love’ everybody. Respect and appreciation is akin to love, but agreement takes unity/love to another level.
And when it comes to supporting ‘altruistic’ policies which are self sacrificial, and bring harm to one’s own, then respect may remain but unity goes away as blows are delivered. The Gospel is essentially self sacrificial.
I always think of the Civil War soldiers who would cross lines at night to fellowship, and then get up the next morning and brutally kill each other.
Sometimes I am near overcome by the feelings and powers in play. Truly amazing and humbling. I somewhat understand the massive contrast of Light and Dark that Jake Barber felt when supposed Alien telepathy and comprehensive Vision entered his mind.
We should all likely prepare for the ‘Coming’. To the degree possible. Talk is one thing but Real is quite another.
And when it comes to supporting ‘altruistic’ policies which are self sacrificial, and bring harm to one’s own, then respect may remain but unity goes away as blows are delivered. The Gospel is essentially self sacrificial.
I always think of the Civil War soldiers who would cross lines at night to fellowship, and then get up the next morning and brutally kill each other.
Sometimes I am near overcome by the feelings and powers in play. Truly amazing and humbling. I somewhat understand the massive contrast of Light and Dark that Jake Barber felt when supposed Alien telepathy and comprehensive Vision entered his mind.
We should all likely prepare for the ‘Coming’. To the degree possible. Talk is one thing but Real is quite another.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 11:23 am to 4cubbies
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I have not defended any teacher diagnosing a kid with any medical condition.
No lol you were denying it happened.
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I simply do not blame teachers for parents seeking out ADHD medication for their kids. Parents must be held accountable for their own parenting decisions.
Side step.
No one disagrees that parents are also responsible.
But you have held the point that any blame of teachers is undeserved.
Its quite obvious that this continues to happen.
But you cant ignore that for decades female teachers were calling many male students parents and starting the medication ball rolling.
If we swapped female teachers and male students with white teachers and black students you know you would be all up on systematic bias.
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I could ask you the same thing
Of course I do.
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I’m supposed to disregard my experience of parents not heeding the advice of teachers and blame teachers for parents medicating their kids.
You will never understand if you get defensive whenever your team has a part in something bad.
Your title is about the man/boy crisis.
Your article is a completely female perspective on things like boyscouts and some rich moron who have no idea about why men are moving to Trump (the only thing that interests the media).
This is one example of something with long term effects on millions of American men.
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The major publication did not say teachers recommending medication to parents is an epidemic.
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US Schools and the Astounding Rise in ADHD
Are American education practices contributing to the ADHD "epidemic?"
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-intuitive-parent/201605/us-schools-and-the-astounding-rise-in-adhd
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The New Amphetamine Crisis
An ADHD medication abuse epidemic.
https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/addiction-outlook/202503/the-new-amphetamine-crisis
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anecdotally.
Factually look up the numbers of ADHD medication prescriptions by year.
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teachers legally cannot do this today because it is so unethical and unprofessional. I am not defending a teacher for doing something that is so outside of their scope, it’s actually illegal now.
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the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual of Mental Disorders (DSM-5) states that the assessment of ADHD should include information from multiple sources, including parents, teachers, and other caregivers, to ensure a comprehensive understanding of the child's behavior across settings. The American Academy of Pediatrics also recommends that teachers be involved in the assessment process.
See what I really wish was that you did this level of critical analysis on the OP article, which just told you something worthless.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:09 pm to RCDfan1950
It’s all good. I’m just being silly since I frequently am asked why I post here when everyone hates me.
Not everyone, suckers!
Sometimes I think everyone just needs to take a few deep breaths and go for a walk around the block. Then we can prep for the coming.
Not everyone, suckers!
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We should all likely prepare for the ‘Coming’. To the degree possible. Talk is one thing but Real is quite another.
Sometimes I think everyone just needs to take a few deep breaths and go for a walk around the block. Then we can prep for the coming.
Posted on 11/15/25 at 2:12 pm to 4cubbies
Well, everyone responds to your constant hysteria on this forum lol
This post was edited on 11/15/25 at 2:13 pm
Posted on 11/15/25 at 9:28 pm to Narax
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You will never understand if you get defensive whenever your team has a part in something bad.
We’re all on the same team. We want American kids to succeed.
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Factually look up the numbers of ADHD medication prescriptions by year.
I tried and couldn’t find this data quickly.
quote:it’s a glib opinion piece. Not sure why people are acting as if it is a Pulitzer or Nobel finalist.
See what I really wish was that you did this level of critical analysis on the OP article, which just told you something worthless.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 12:03 am to 4cubbies
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We’re all on the same team. We want American kids to succeed.
Its impossible to win as a team when the players keep getting defensive about their failures.
Teachers failed, school policies failed, parents failed, doctors failed.
We have 16.5 million Americans legally on ADHD medication.
As a nation we need to come to terms with that.
It creates problems in employment, relationships, and well being.
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I tried and couldn’t find this data quickly.
DEA Diversion Control Division (.gov)
https://www.deadiversion.usdoj.gov/pubs/docs/IQVIA-Report-on-Stimulant-Trends-2024.pdf
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it’s a glib opinion piece. Not sure why people are acting as if it is a Pulitzer or Nobel finalist.
Its misinformation.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 8:43 am to Narax
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Its impossible to win as a team when the players keep getting defensive about their failures.
I have failed tons of times over the course of my life. Prescribing medication to students or telling students and/or their parents to get medication to subdue their kids is not one of my failures. I don’t believe teachers exclusively or primarily caused the over-medication of other people’s children. You do. We disagree. It’s that simple and has nothing to do with being defensive.
This post was edited on 11/16/25 at 8:44 am
Posted on 11/16/25 at 8:48 am to Narax
A man hating feminist says we are on her team.
Lolololol
Lolololol
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:44 am to 4cubbies
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I don’t believe teachers exclusively or primarily caused the over-medication of other people’s children. You do
Ok seriously wtf...
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Teachers failed, school policies failed, parents failed, doctors failed.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 9:46 am to Narax
You’ve really only been blaming teachers up until that one sentence though.
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:09 am to 4cubbies
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You’ve really only been blaming teachers up until that one sentence though.
No, you have repeatedly stated that teachers were not pushing people to medicate their children.
If you agree that all share blame, then we agree.
Do you agree that they all share blame?
Posted on 11/16/25 at 10:13 am to Narax
You're wasting your time man. You're not going to get through to her.
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