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re: What crime do they think TRUMP committed? Need a specific provision of the US Code.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:13 am to LSUTigersVCURams
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:13 am to LSUTigersVCURams
They know he didn't do anything. That's why the always say "inquiry".
They just want to stir up the useful idiots through the MSM propaganda.
They just want to stir up the useful idiots through the MSM propaganda.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:24 am to Eurocat
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Federal law makes it illegal to “solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation” from a foreign national. The question of whether or not the president ran afoul of that law certainly seems in play in light of what we saw in the transcript.
For purposes of this statute, a “contribution or donation” is defined as “money” or another “thing of value.” So a prosecution of Trump would hinge upon whether the opposition research Trump sought on Biden constitutes such a “thing of value.” Barr and Giuliani, meanwhile, could be considered accomplices in Trump’s effort to obtain opposition research from Ukraine’s president.
When you're a dim, you project your own wrongful behavior onto your opponents, it's what you do.
Riddle me this... if Ukraine did the investigation, regardless of Trump's motive for seeking the investigation, and there was no evidence of wrongdoing by Hunter and Joe, and nothing was ever said about the investigation, would it still be a muh campaign finance violation?
Ironically, it was the dim whistleblower hoax and the Schitts/dim/MSM collusion that has turned a perfectly legal request and exercise of foreign policy that has turned this into a campaign-related issue.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 10:24 am
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:24 am to Eurocat
quote:Ok... then why is the MSM Propaganda Machine not in complete hysterics over what Biden and son did with China and Ukraine??
Federal law makes it illegal to “solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation” from a foreign national.

Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:24 am to GumboPot
quote:In that case, any such articles of impeachment will not result in Senate conviction.quote:Good thing that never happened
Federal law makes it illegal to “solicit, accept, or receive a contribution or donation” from a foreign national. The question of whether or not the president ran afoul of that law certainly seems in play in light of what we saw in the transcript.
The OP asked what statute would be used, and EuroCat identified it.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 10:37 am
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:37 am to AggieHank86
A lawful investigation is not a "thing of value."
HAIL TRUMP!
HAIL TRUMP!
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:38 am to AggieHank86
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What crime do they think TRUMP committed? Need a specific provision of the US Code.
In thinking about this further, it should be pointed out that primary question is a bit of a red herring.
Impeachment is not defined by the US Code. It is limited by the constitution to actions amounting to "bribery, treason and other high crimes and misdemeanors" and left to the house to define those circumstances.
If the dims can convince their members [and thus their constituents] that the transcript (which is now their "confession" according to Kamala) amounts to bribery or treason, then their 60 year assault on education has succeeded beyond their wildest dreams.
Whether the alleged solicitation of assistance from another country to investigate a past official's potential abuse of office is a high crime or misdemeanor, well that's going to set one hell of a precedent.
So does that mean that future presidents are obligated to turn a blind eye to or take active measure to ensure that foreign countries conceal past corruption? Honk.
This post was edited on 10/16/19 at 10:46 am
Posted on 10/16/19 at 10:56 am to PhDoogan
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Whether the alleged solicitation of assistance from another country to investigate a past official's potential abuse of office is a high crime or misdemeanor, well that's going to set one hell of a precedent.
Shouldn't that thought process cut both ways? If asking a foreign entity to investigate corruption and abuse of office perpetrated by a US official is kosher, wouldn't you expect Congress to investigate allegations of corruption and abuse of office perpetrated by a US official?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:01 am to i am dan
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Democrats/liberals are piece of shite liars and have no idea how to do anything.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:13 am to DeathAndTaxes
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Shouldn't that thought process cut both ways? If asking a foreign entity to investigate corruption and abuse of office perpetrated by a US official is kosher, wouldn't you expect Congress to investigate allegations of corruption and abuse of office perpetrated by a US official?
So you want Congress to investigate Joe Biden? Seems a little redundant, no?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:17 am to LSUTigersVCURams
USC 13 - Sez mean things
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:24 am to PhDoogan
Not really what I was driving at, but why would that be redundant?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:26 am to DeathAndTaxes
USC impeach 45- He is bad for our business.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:34 am to Eurocat
If this is accurate, how is this different from the spying done to Trump before and during his run for office with Muh Russia? Are politicians now immune from committing foreign crimes because it could benefit their political opponents? Also wasn't this already being investigated by the Ukraine government? They might have shelved it, but it was still previously investigated, correct?
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:41 am to AggieHank86
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In that case, any such articles of impeachment will not result in Senate conviction.
The OP asked what statute would be used, and EuroCat identified it.
Hero Hank just in time to Hanksplain it to us dumb, non lawyer types.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:44 am to LSUTigersVCURams
They have all been investigations in search of a crime.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:47 am to DeathAndTaxes
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Essentially, if you believe that he was requesting they conduct opposition research by asking them to investigate Biden, that would constitute a violation of the law referenced above.
Obviously that is the route they were taking. But, to quote that fine American .....and also almost President, Al Gore, there really is no controlling legal authority.....why because he is POTUS and he is dealing with another duly elected head of state and he is in the midst of conducting foreign policy and in that capacity he can ask anything of that person.....and there is not a damned thing anyone can do about this and Schiff and the attorneys on the Intelligence Cmte know this. That's why they are using the whole " oh but we don't need the law, impeachment has nothing to do with a crime or violation of the law " bullshite.
Posted on 10/16/19 at 11:50 am to Eurocat
Yet Hunter Biden becoming rich off of Dad who lied multiple times about his Ukranian connections / conversations / meetings / golf outings is just fine with you.
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