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re: What classified documents do YOU think should be ok for a former ...
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:18 am to Marcus Aurelius
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:18 am to Marcus Aurelius
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highly classified documents
The hysteria over "classified" documents is laughable. There should be almost zero documents that are classified. The government is supposed to exist only through the consent of the governed. The idea that we aren't entitled to review certain documents is bs.
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Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:19 am to Tandemjay
Why should he ... or any other President ... keep them?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:20 am to Marcus Aurelius
Why are there top secret documents?
Who gets to classify them and why?
Who gets to classify them and why?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:21 am to SCLibertarian
While there is little question there is way over classification ... your suggestion is nonsense. Again, why should ANY former President, VP, et al think it is ok to take OUR documents?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:21 am to Marcus Aurelius
quote:None.
What classified documents do YOU think should be ok for a former President, Vice President, Senator, or Secretary of State to take with them after they leave office?
Once they leave office, they are no longer responsible for making either policy or decisions. They don't need the dox.
They take them because they want to continue to feel relevant.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:22 am to TigerOnTheMountain
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It’s not like our enemies don’t already have them.
I've handled documents marked 'secret' and 'confidential' and had to laugh sometimes because the whole world already knew the information in them.
Just because a staffer slaps a stamp on information doesn't necessarily make it important.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:23 am to BestBanker
The question was about taking them. Why do any of these people think it is ok? It is not, the documents to NOT belong to them. They belong to "We the People."
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:24 am to NotSDvTiger
They don't belong to them... it is that simple.
"Whatever they want. What difference would it make "
"Whatever they want. What difference would it make "
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:25 am to Colonel Flagg
quote:As I see it, the problem is that the Drafters of the Constitution started from the premise that anyone elected POTUS would be a person of good character and would not misuse information that came into his possession.
Can a President really take classified documents? Wouldn’t it declassify immediately once they put it in a situation it would have had to be declassified?
I am uncertain that this premise remains valid.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:25 am to TrueTiger
Why should they take ANY documents that belong to us? They serve us ... and they are taking our documents like they are somebody special. Most of them are not.
"We need to see them to make that determination."
"We need to see them to make that determination."
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 11:27 am
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:27 am to Marcus Aurelius
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They belong to "We the People."
Are “we the People” better represented by some Undersecretary of Death and Dismemberment at DoD or the people we elect to office?
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:27 am to Marcus Aurelius
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Why should they take ANY documents that belong to us? They serve us ... and they are taking our documents like they are somebody special. Most of them are not.
There was no unauthorized taking. He came into legal possession via him being president.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:28 am to the808bass
The idiocy is to suggest that they should take ANY documents, classified or otherwise. Why should they? They do NOT belong to them.
People keep "talking" about the degrees of what "they" took... Who gives a crap. They shouldn't take any. They can take the their photos and move on.
People keep "talking" about the degrees of what "they" took... Who gives a crap. They shouldn't take any. They can take the their photos and move on.
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 11:46 am
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:28 am to AggieHank86
quote:
They take them because they want to continue to feel relevant.
So you assume…
However, this could apply to your posts.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:28 am to Marcus Aurelius
I guess the ones Biden took.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:29 am to Marcus Aurelius
None! I don’t like the concept of laws for you, but not for me.
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:29 am to AggieHank86
you are not correct. Every president builds a library commemorating their time in office and documents are necessary to include. Obama is somewhat of an over achiever in the record for library issue and is the poster child for how broke the archive system i
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:29 am to AggieHank86
Easily the best answer.
"None.
Once they leave office, they are no longer responsible for making either policy or decisions. They don't need the dox.
They take them because they want to continue to feel relevant."
"None.
Once they leave office, they are no longer responsible for making either policy or decisions. They don't need the dox.
They take them because they want to continue to feel relevant."
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:32 am to Marcus Aurelius
the indictment isnt that he had them. he was showing war plans to journalists. thats just one thing
This post was edited on 6/10/23 at 11:33 am
Posted on 6/10/23 at 11:32 am to NotSDvTiger
quote:
Whatever they want. What difference would it make
I remember this same blase attitude from Republicans when they were passing the Patriot Act which allowed for domestic spying.
What could go wrong?
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