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West Virginia governor: Virginia counties unhappy with liberal gov should just secede

Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:27 pm
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:27 pm
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West Virginia's Republican governor urged counties in Virginia that are unhappy with their state's Democratic majority to secede and join his state.


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“If you’re not happy where you’re at, come on down,” Justice said. “If you’re not truly happy where you are, we stand with open arms to take you from Virginia or anywhere you may be. We stand strongly behind the Second Amendment, and we stand strongly for the unborn.”


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Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:28 pm to
That'll be a nice trend

"WHEN YOU DONT AGREE, JUST SECEDE"
Posted by teke184
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:29 pm to
There is about 160 years of precedent for this one, though.

What state was West Virginia once a part of?
Posted by Kafka
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:29 pm to
Seriously, when was the last time a governor advocated secession?
Posted by thebigmuffaletta
Member since Aug 2017
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:30 pm to
quote:

“WHEN YOU DONT AGREE WITH YOUR CONSTITUTIONAL RIGHTS BEING INFRINGED BY STATISTS, JUST SECEDE"


FIFY
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:31 pm to
quote:

There is about 160 years of precedent for this one, though.

What state was West Virginia once a part of?


Clearly Maryland
Posted by Darth_Vader
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:32 pm to
quote:

Seriously, when was the last time a governor advocated secession?


Well, the entire state of WEST Virginia was at one point part of Virginia until it seceded to form its own state.
Posted by BoarEd
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:52 pm to
quote:

There is about 160 years of precedent for this one, though.

What state was West Virginia once a part of?


Doh!!
Posted by timdonaghyswhistle
Member since Jul 2018
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 9:53 pm to
I can get behind a 9 electoral vote West Virginia.
Posted by Boatshoes
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Posted on 1/28/20 at 10:33 pm to
Lets make this happen.
Posted by ChineseBandit58
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:50 am to
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Lets make this happen.


What would be the procedure for such an action??

Wouldn't VA have to agree? = they won't

Hold a special election? Amend the constitution??



Posted by Oilfieldbiology
Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 4:54 am to
We that’s fricking ironic of West Virginia to tell Virginia
Posted by Stealth Matrix
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:38 am to
I don't think Virginia at the time agreed with the original secession of West Virginia, but, there it exists today
Posted by NewbombII
Member since Nov 2014
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 5:51 am to
I was going to go into a long dissertation about the right to secede and the Civil War. Suffice it to say if it was illegal for the South to leave it is even more illegal and Unconstitutional for West Virginia secede.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 6:30 am to
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What would be the procedure for such an action?? Wouldn't VA have to agree? = they won't Hold a special election? Amend the constitution??


Take a look at a map, and draw an outline around all the contiguous to West Virginia counties where such a vote is likely to pass. Hold a simultaneous county level election in those counties.

If the ballot measure passes, then at a county level, with the assistance of the West Virginia state government immediately begin acting as if those counties belong to West Virginia. State taxes going to Charleston, Wva State Troopers patrolling the highways, opening WVa DMV locations so residents can get licenses and replate their cars. Initially, I would make that free for 90 days or something like that to make it a zero cost option for residents. I might even give all new West Virginia residents a one year state income tax exemption as a carrot. State level elected officials would immediately withdraw from the Virginia assembly and be invited to the West Virginia legislature.

As the saying goes, possession is 9/10ths of the law, and as the Dems have taught us over the past several decades, just doing things goes a long way towards getting them done.

Gut Virginia and leave Blackface Northam as the governor of a handful of Northern Virginia counties and an urban area or two.

If the West Virginia state government actually had a set big enough to get this done, heck, I think I would move there.

Or we could go back to business as usual, have a rally, go home, and live under Northman’s anti first and anti second amendment tyranny.
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 6:40 am
Posted by fjlee90
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Member since Nov 2016
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:18 am to
I’d welcome the newly minted South Virginia into the fold.

Would be redder than a drunk Irishman and a few more electoral votes wouldn’t hurt.

This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 8:26 am
Posted by MeatCleaverWeaver
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:19 am to
"WHEN YOUR GOVERNMENT IS TRASHING THE CONSTITUTION, JUST SECEDE"

FIFY
Posted by TigerFanInSouthland
Louisiana
Member since Aug 2012
28065 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:26 am to
quote:

I was going to go into a long dissertation about the right to secede and the Civil War. Suffice it to say if it was illegal for the South to leave it is even more illegal and Unconstitutional for West Virginia secede.


It wasn’t though.
Posted by Boatshoes
Member since Dec 2017
6775 posts
Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:40 am to
Article 4, Section 3, Clause 1

“no new States shall be formed or erected within the Jurisdiction of any other State; nor any State be formed by the Junction of two or more States, or Parts of States, without the Consent of the Legislatures of the States concerned as well as of the Congress.”

So counties leaving to form a new state called South Virginia is against the federal constitution without permission from both the Virginia legislature and congress....but that document is completely silent on the issue of part of an existing state joining itself to another existing state.

That’s why you have West Virginia move unilaterally to annex Virginia counties after a county level vote.



(what’s that one westernmost blue county?)
This post was edited on 1/29/20 at 7:46 am
Posted by Quidam65
Q Continuum
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 1/29/20 at 7:43 am to
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I’d welcome the newly minted Soiuth Virginia into the fold.


Idea: we allow PR as a state ONLY IF South Virginia also becomes one. That way the Senate is balanced out.
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