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re: Well Kimmel dragged his son out tonight
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:38 am to YoungManOldMan
Posted on 12/12/17 at 12:38 am to YoungManOldMan
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The cultural problem is the concept of "Choice".
That is what differentiates us from Europe and other socialist healthcare states, including the NHS in Britain.
America wants choice. With that, socialized medicine will never work and is never a possibility.
It was stressed when I met with the NHS last June. We had a frank discussion, with their KPMG consultants in the room, the point I made was what was lacking was consumer choice. That is why healthcare costs are higher in America. There is no central route of care. Without that, costs cannot and will never be managed effectively.
More or less, yes. It's a little more complicated than that, but that's the general gist.
The NHS can effectively manage basic care for every single person in the country because they take a very cold econometric calculation (based off a rough system called a QALY, or quality-adjusted life year) in determining for what they will and will not pay.
Choice is a factor in all this, but it's really relatively minor. The growth in expenditure, both public and private, is because we spend an enormous amount of money on the intensive curve in healthcare. We are willing to spend every last marginal dollar we have on healthcare whereas the UK is not. It is not surprising - the US is a very, very rich country (even compared to the UK PPP-adjusted), and we tend to blow money on stupid shite. Healthcare is a normal good, afterall.
Choice is a piece of it, but not the only piece. Private payers are starting to limit choice again after an explosive growth in network access in the 1990's (which, of course, dramatically raised prices). American consumers are starting to become more comfortable with price discrimination in healthcare vis a vis limited networks than they used to be. The data on that is pretty clear.
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 5:47 am to Kafka
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Carolla maybe, but Kimmel?
When I was 14, I found both him and Carolla hilarious. Plus Kimmel was a legit great Roast comedian.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 5:57 am to OMLandshark
Which kid are we talking about? The one that was just born or the kids he abandoned when he got famous and dumped his first wife?
Posted on 12/12/17 at 5:59 am to OMLandshark
What's the back story on this? I always thought they were good friends. I did a lazy Google and could only find Adams appearance on Kimmels anniversary show.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 6:07 am to OMLandshark
What I laugh about here is Kimmel says something about healthcare through employers. Last I checked he worked for ABC- part of Disney. Is there irony then that a place for kids doesn’t offer children’s healthcare as dependents of their employees? His bitch is the wrong one.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 6:22 am to OMLandshark
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Posted on 12/12/17 at 6:23 am to NewGrad1212
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What's the back story on this? I always thought they were good friends. I did a lazy Google and could only find Adams appearance on Kimmels anniversary show.
They’re still good friends. Carolla has been Jimmy’s most frequent guest, but that more has to do with the fact that Jimmy couldn’t secure interviews earlier in his career. But since Jimmy broke Adam’s career long before the Man Show, I don’t think Adam will ever say anything bad about Jimmy. They’ve both defended one another in recent months, with Kimmel being the press’s new poster boy. I’ve read multiple interviews with Kimmel recently where journalists pretty much do a “how dare you” with Kimmel doing the Man Show with Adam in the first place, and Kimmel says (probably rightly) that if the Man Show were done today it would be far more popular than when they did it.
Adam has mostly refused to comment on the Kimmel/Shapiro feud saying he wants to be left out of it. But the fact that he doesn’t defend Jimmy against Ben tells me that he probably agrees with the later, he’s just not going to kick Jimmy when he’s down and emotionally vulnerable. Having gone through the exact same thing as Jimmy, Ben has no qualms with doing it.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 6:25 am to OMLandshark
I miss Johnny Carson.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 6:28 am to OMLandshark
Posted on 12/12/17 at 6:58 am to OMLandshark
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Fight to the death: one comes out alive and healthy and the other dead: Shapiro or Kimmel?
SONIC DOME. Two men enter, one man leaves. I like it.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:07 am to OMLandshark
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And while to be honest I don’t know shite about the CHIP program and Kimmel may be right about it
I didn't either.
First thing I found was that it didn't exist until 1997.
I somehow missed all the dead and dying kids in my childhood .
Furthermore, its not actually being defunded right now.
It has been renewed/process of being renewed for another 5 years (typical term).
Whats being defunded is an ObamaCare rider that was added relatively recently.
Again, don't remember all the dead kids before then.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 8:19 am to Volvagia
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Furthermore, its not actually being defunded right now. It has been renewed/process of being renewed for another 5 years (typical term). Whats being defunded is an ObamaCare rider that was added relatively recently. Again, don't remember all the dead kids before then.
Like I said earlier, it’s typical emotional bullshite spewed by left/media because they know it’s easy fodder.
They are extremely good at finding an “issue” to drive the most emotional narrative possible, I’ll give them that. I’m just constantly in awe at how celebrities constantly fall for it and shill for it.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:09 am to OMLandshark
Attention whore who shouldn't be looking for government handouts for any member of his family...Hope he fades away like yesterday's sunset. 
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:10 am to OMLandshark
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Kimmel may be right about it
Highly doubtful
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:10 am to Damone
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Highly doubtful
My point is even if he was, he went about it tastelessly.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:12 am to OMLandshark
Of course. If Kimmel actually cared about these issues he would go out of his way to secure independent and unbiased information to present to his audience, but instead he confers with Chuck Schumer. Hence nothing he says can be taken with anything more than a grain of salt.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:48 am to OMLandshark
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I think he is coming from a place of genuine heart,
I think he is a hack.
Posted on 12/12/17 at 9:58 am to NIH
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I don't know why you're surprised, emotional appeal is the toss dive of the liberal playbook
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:08 am to OMLandshark
Did he cry? Jimmy Snivel
Posted on 12/12/17 at 10:08 am to SirWinston
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Kimmel is a hack and I hope his son is healthy as frick and turns whatever alt right is in 20 years
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