re: We only have 1 plant that produces steel used for our electric grid.

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The reality is you're over here knighting for a company that's not very well respected

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Not at all. 100% false in fact. What is reality is you are a man of knowledge. You are in the electrical field. You damn well KNOW there is no such thing as electrical steel.

That's a reality.

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They're a shite unionized plant that has a horrible environmental record

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Has zero to do with the topic. The topic is we do not produce enough. That one plant would be a monopoly if they were the only one. It's also not possible for them to produce enough.

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And their contributions to "the grid" are not near as meaningful as you make them out to be

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Here's the "No such thing as electrical steel" powerman saying, once again, that I am being dishonest.

Please note he stated their contributions are not as meaningful as I make them out to be. WHICH IS THE WHOLE FRIGGIN POINT to the thread.

I thank you for finally grasping that point.

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Know why? Because manufacturing is cheaper to do elsewhere. That's the whole point of reducing taxes here and increasing them elsewhere...to not only stop businesses from moving away, but to bring businesses back.

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We can not bring back the 1950’s

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Yeah, there is no description other than "electrical steel"

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Which wasn't in the OP

The OP says:

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We only have 1 plant that produces steel used for our electric grid.

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Which is non-specific to type of steel

There are various types of steel used for "the grid" and the "electrical steel" he is referring to is a very insignificant portion.

"We don't have enough 'electrical steel' to be self-sufficient"

"quick, let's tax it so we can have even less!"


-retarded people

Article about electric transformers

Electric grid large power transformers take up to 2 years to build
Posted on January 21, 2015 by energyskeptic
[ This post contains excerpts from the Department of Energy document “Large power transformers and the U.S. electric grid”.

Large power transformers are essential critical infrastructure to the electric grid, and are huge, weighing up to 820,000 pounds. If large power transformers are destroyed by a geomagnetic disturbance (GMD) electromagnetic pulse (EMP), cyber-attack, sabotage, severe weather, floods, or simply old age, parts or all of the electric grid could be down in a region for 6 months to 2 years. This is because the USA imports 85% of them, there is competition with other nations for limited production and raw materials such as special grade electrical steel, a high cost ranging from $2.5 to $10 million dollars (including transport/installation), and they are custom built, with long lead times to design, bid, manufacture, and deliver, with components depending on long foreign production and supply chains. The United States large power transformers are aging faster than they’re being replaced, and even more are needed for new intermittent renewable generation, which has the potential to damage them if not integrated carefully into the existing electric grid. There are possibly tens of thousands of LPT’s in America, mostly built between 1954 and 1978, so an increasing percentage of these aging LPT’s will need to be replaced within the next few decades.


an article from 2015 on the subject, which I know nothing about

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the "electrical steel" he is referring to is a very insignificant portion.

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....... no words.

Without it, there are no Lpts.

Nobody is knighting for them Power"no such thing as electrical steel"man. You are making shite up.

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an article from 2015 on the subject, which I know nothing about

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That’s from a blog that also talks about Peak Oil

So if everything you believe is actually true you just provided an example of thy tarrifs are a bad idea

So let's review what you believe

1. They are the only plant that produces electrical steel (this is actually false but we'll get into that later)

2. They are incapable of producing the amount we need

So all a tax does is make these ever so critical materials more expensive and hurts the American consumer

Brilliant!