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re: We need more ICE … Fletcher Harris, 20, and his girlfriend Skylar Provenza, 19 …

Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:41 pm to
Posted by TDTOM
Member since Jan 2021
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:41 pm to
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Thank you for bringing a voice of reason in here.

One could find just as many drunk driving stories of white college kids on the same night.

These are nothing more than boogeyman stories that contribute to the racism narrative you guys claim isn't valid.


You should stick to the weather threads.
Posted by minister of truth
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:45 pm to
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I'm arguing that being an illegal does not have any bearing on the number of drunk driving deaths in America,


so if the "illegal" had not been driving, either because he had been deported prior to the accident or not allowed in through a porous border in the 1st place, then the young couple would still be dead?
Posted by Rekrul
Member since Feb 2007
9554 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:49 pm to
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I'm arguing that being an illegal does not have any bearing on the number of drunk driving deaths in America, and using a story to promote the reason we need more ICE to stop the boogeyman is the same story racists have used throughout history against minorities.


I’m sure you’d feel the same way about one of your children, or parents, or brother/sister being killed by a drunk driver who should have never been in this country in the first place, right?

Cut the bullshite. If they’re in this country illegally then they should be deported, period. That is the law, I have no idea how you idiots find that so difficult to understand.

There are ways to change laws, there are ways to amend the constitution. Until that’s done just shut the frick up.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
21236 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 9:52 pm to
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But if you're good at math riddle me this. How has violent crime been going down at the same time that so many illegals entered the country?

Cry me a river. Does it make this couple any less dead? Does it bring them back to life? They would and should be alive if we just enforced our own laws. I’m sure your logic is of great comfort to the victim’s families. You libs never talk about that because you don’t care. Just take crime out of it. They drag down the national economy and cause a strain on local community resources. Most of these people require a huge welfare safety net upon arrival for a long time.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 10:06 pm
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:08 pm to
What you posted is really some of the dumbest shite ever
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4399 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:09 pm to
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Cut the bullshite. If they’re in this country illegally then they should be deported, period. That is the law, I have no idea how you idiots find that so difficult to understand.


Here is where we agree.

I support the concept of deportation. We don't need to make this a boogeyman thing
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4399 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:11 pm to
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What you posted is really some of the dumbest shite ever


haha sure

Post that we need to round up all the illegals because they are drunk driving---show stats that actually white ppl do the most drunk driving and boom white man says it's dumb.

My entire point is that using this article to promote deportation is dumb, so I think we actually agree that this entire topic is stupid.
Posted by SDVTiger
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Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:11 pm to
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Post that we need to round up all the illegals because they are drunk driving


No you round them up cause they are illegal

You progtards are just the dumbest
Posted by The_Duke
Member since Nov 2016
4399 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:12 pm to
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No you round them up cause they are illegal

You progtards are just the dumbest


Dude--you agree with me. You're just arguing to argue now
Posted by SDVTiger
Cabo San Lucas
Member since Nov 2011
98060 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:14 pm to
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Dude--you agree with me.


No you said round up white ppl

We only agree that you are a moron
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:15 pm to
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National data on Driving Under the Influence (DUI) by race shows that, according to 2016 estimates, roughly 82% of those arrested for a DUI were White, 23% were Latino, and 14% were Black. While self-reported, 12-month DUI rates are often highest among White men (22%),, Native American/Alaska Native men (20.8%), and men of mixed races (22.5%).

Let's round up all the white folks

Do you understand how retarded what you posted is an argument supporting the position the illegals don't have any bearing on how many drunk driving deaths there are in the US?

That's a serious question. Do you know how retarded that is?
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 10:16 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
21729 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:29 pm to
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show stats that actually white ppl do the most drunk driving


Hispanics are often counted as “white”

I posted screenshots earlier… on the murder screenshot technically 100% were white as I intentionally did not include black.

Of the 100% white… 60% were Hispanic/latino.

So Scrogg of with yer white stats- while they’re bad enough, the are hyper inflated by the inclusion of everything not black.
Posted by David_DJS
Member since Aug 2005
22726 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:34 pm to
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So Scrogg of with yer white stats- while they’re bad enough, the are hyper inflated by the inclusion of everything not black.

And they don't matter.

His argument foundationally assumes that if a drunk illegal hadn't run his truck into the SUV on Highway 9 on such-and-such a date, then it would have been someone else that did. Which is stupid.

Rates of DUI by race, etc., don't mean anything in the discussion of illegals and traffic deaths. The fact is that every traffic death caused by an illegal is a death that wouldn't have happened if the illegal wasn't in the country.
This post was edited on 1/23/26 at 10:36 pm
Posted by SallysHuman
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Member since Jan 2025
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:36 pm to
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The fact is that every traffic death caused by an illegal is a death that wouldn't have happened if the illegal wasn't in the country.


True. Very true.
Posted by GatorOnAnIsland
Florida
Member since Jan 2019
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 10:37 pm to
I never would’ve have thought it could happen but dukey is actually demonstrating that its possible to be more of a dult than SFP or VOR
Posted by HubbaBubba
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:03 pm to
#100
Posted by SuperSaint
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Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:51 pm to
2,1
Posted by biglego
San Francisco
Member since Nov 2007
84714 posts
Posted on 1/23/26 at 11:55 pm to
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And yes I'm for securing the border and deporting people.


Ok then there’s no need to continue on further.

With a secure border these young people are still alive.
Posted by MontanaTiger
Montana
Member since Oct 2008
3959 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:01 am to
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Do Americans drink and drive and cause fatal crashes? yes. EVERY frikkin illegal that does so is a case that was PREVENTABLE.


So true. It doesn’t matter what the comparative rates are. Every American citizen’s death at the hands of an illegal alien is one that would not have happened if that illegal alien wasn’t here.
Posted by Sneauxghost
Member since Sep 2020
1351 posts
Posted on 1/24/26 at 12:03 am to
Hey moron, if 600,000 were deported, 1.5 m self deported, and murder was at a 20 year low, would you tie it all together? All illegals are criminals. 100% of them.
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