re: We have ethanol because farmers in Iowa want your money

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My truck gets 2 more mpg on highway with pure gasoline. frick ethanol.

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This is from a AAA study.

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most experts agree that that using E10 will reduce most vehicles mpg by three or four percent.

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If the difference between the two fuels is 11 cents or less, buy pure gas. If it’s greater than 11 cents, you’re saving money by purchasing E10.”

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My truck gets 2 more mpg on highway with pure gasoline. frick ethanol.

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Look at it another way...

Dollars per 87 octane (88, 89) gallon whatever you are using divided by your miles per gallon.

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Dollars per e85 gallon divided by your miles per gallon using e85 (2 miles per gallon less than above)

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Your cost of operating your vehicle per mile will be much less using e85 than operating on 87 octane.

Lower your operating expense with a trade off of stopping to fill-up a little more often.

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Iowa is making money off of fricking up engines with ethanol and causing diabetes with high fructose corn syrup.

SMH

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Just clearing up some items above.

There are 2 kinds of Corn Ethanol production.

1.) "Dry Grind" facility = Corn as the input and Ethanol, Distillers Grains and CO2 as the outputs. A Dry Grind facility CANNOT make High Fructose Corn Syrup. The bulk majority of ethanol comes from these types of facilities.

2.) "Wet Mill" facility = Corn as the input and High Fructose Corn Syrup, Corn Gluten Meal, Corn Gluten Feed, Corn Germ, Corn Bran and a whole host of other by-products/co-products and Ethanol can be one of those products, but a Wet Mill can operate WITHOUT producing a drop of ethanol. Depends on how they stream their plant to operate versus the economics of the stream being produced.

Is it just Iowa? The corn belt is a lot bigger than Iowa

I would rather hogs be subsidized if they have to do anything, at least get some cheap pulled pork out of it

I had a pork chop in Iowa 30 years ago and I still remember it

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The energy landscape is going to fundamentally change in the next 10 years due to wind/solar and battery technology

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Just like with ethanol, show me where it works, economically, without government subsidies and we'll see.

Electrical and wind are supplemental power sources (as are hydro electric and geothermal) until they aren't. "They aren't" happens when they can produce enough for our commercial and industrial demands.

In 2018 - Wind+Solar accounted for 8.2% of our production (no one seriously suggests we have much of a power "surplus", although there is surplus capacity in some areas).

To even get to a majority of our demands, those 2 sources would have to increase 6 fold. For renewables (all sources, including hydro), they would still have to triple.

So, I stand by my 50 to 60 years - AT THE SOONEST.

Until then, evil, disgusting, dirty "fossil fuels" will still continue to produce 50 to 65 percent of our electrical power, as they do now.

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Being brutally honest, the idea of having a right to other people’s money and using govenment to take it is as much an American ideal now as anything else.

It would behoove us small government types to engage and try to change minds.

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Why stop there? Maybe you can stop private for profit prisons that Republicans love to have us pay for.

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except whiskey. Whiskey is pretty special but frick corn for everything but whiskey.

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The best whiskey is distilled from small nice heirloom corn growers located in Kentucky, Tennessee and Canada. Most whiskey makers do not use the GMO corn Iowa corn farmers produce to make corn syrup, ethanol alcohol and cattle feed among other things.

Very few people really understood the gist of Interstellar, the movie, (and I certainly did not agree with the science) but the part about what got us there .... the corn part, I totally agree with, it is where we are headed on a fast track.

And the worst part is - is that it can be avoided.

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Not exactly apples to apples, though. Private contractors are providing a service. The cost-benefit analysis there is what would it cost to do it with civil servants (with corresponding benefits) versus a "pay as you go", scale up/down model that contracting affords.

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No private prisons are a scam and are absolutely unnecessary. How could we as Americans be okay with that conflict of interest? They literally make more money based on how many prisoners they have and it all comes out of our pockets.

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They literally make more money based on how many prisoners they have and it all comes out of our pockets.

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Well since it would cost more to feed and guard 1,000 people than 100 people this is common sense.

Can private prisons arrest and jail people?

Ethanol is why I just purchased my first battery operated lawnmower. My yard isn't that big and the battery on this is 80V 6a. No more taking it apart, replacing the gas tank, or fuel line or shitty carburetor clogged with corn syrup for me.