re: We create our own problems and then expect the GOV to fix them

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YOU raised the issue of FORCED abortions later,

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No, I did not. Not ever. You are again LYING!

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I will not call you a “liar” because I do not see an intent to spread falsehood. I honestly think you are simply too stupid to understand just how stupid your comments usually are.

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Yeah.... NO! I never.. Not once referred to FORCED abortions.

I stated clearly in the OP that we created our own problems then expect the GOV to fix them.


YOU raised the NAZIs up in this thread. Even then, you were wrong. Abortion were permitted if the fetus was deformed or disabled.

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No, you dimwit, YOU made reference to forced abortions. Not I. Forced abortions on NON-German women, in response to my specific post about a Nazi law prohibiting GERMAN women from seeking ELECTIVE abortion.

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Again.. you are simply wrong.


BACK TO THE ORIGINAL topic...


We create our own problems and expect the GOV to pay for them.

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YOU raised the NAZIs up in this thread.

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Did he?

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It will happen no matter what,especially with those who have the money and connections. 

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I'm not the biggest advocate of revisiting Roe Vs Wade, but I'm leaning that direction.

I'd be tickled pink if here in Oklahoma, we'd completely outlaw abortion except in the instances of rape and/or incest, so long as it could be proven that it was one of the two.

Let's go back to letting each state decide for themselves. The godless states that have gone full-blown secular can do whatever they see fit and deal with the ramifications on their own. The GOD-fearing states that still show outward proof of a moral compass can ban it.

People can decide for themselves to go to other states to commit pre-birth infanticide. But Gub'mint shouldn't pay for voluntary termination of pregnancies in any way, shape or form.

It sickens me to no end, some of the things that my tax money has helped pay for over the years.

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YOU raised the issue of FORCED abortions later,

No, I did not. Not ever. You are again LYING!

Are you farkin’ SERIOUS?

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Yep. You raised the nazi's. I posted about it.

YOU

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The NAZIs

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ONLY to keep its Authoritarian mitts off uteruses that do not belong to it.

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AND the point of this thread is that people like you who demanded the GOV make an exception to murder.... in the name of abortion to have an out for your "Life Style".


"Little sue is not ready for a baby".. the DON"T f'n do the deed that creates one.

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WRONG.

AGAIN, most supporters of abortion rights are quite content to resolve the issue themselves. Contrary to your assertion, they want government to stay OUT of it.

It is YOU people who insist upon using the coercive power of government to enforce upon others YOUR views on a disputed moral issue.

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No.. it took a GOV to ok you KILLING a baby. Period.


There is no dispute. Science has determined it's a life.

It will continue to confirm that.

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Yep. You raised the nazi's. I posted about it. YOU RAISED The NAZIs

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Are you incapable of reading?

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You raised the nazi's. I posted about it.

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I have given you the name of the poster who did so AND the timestamp of his post, yet you continue to insist it was me. I honestly do not know how to respond to that level of stupidity.

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the point of this thread is that people like you who demanded the GOV make an exception to murder.... in the name of abortion

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The crime of “Murder” is by definition a governmental creation, as is the case with EVERY statutory crime. It is NOT defined to include abortion in any US jurisdiction, and historically few US jurisdictions have so-defined it. There is no need to carve out an “exception” for something that ALREADY falls outside the statutory definition.

As an example, let’s look at the statute that was overturned by Roe, shall we?

It did NOT say that abortion was “murder.” It said that the doc committed a mere third degree felony and that the woman committed a farkin’ MISDEMEANOR.

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Science has determined it's a life. It will continue to confirm that.

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Good for you. It has zero bearing upon your assertion that I lied above. Try to stay focused.

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JJDoc, my post made VERY clear reference to GERMAN women. The policies that you reference applied to NON-German women (untermenschen), mostly in occupied territories. They also applied (to a much lesser extent) to women who were pregnant BY untermenschen. 

in 1943 the Nazis enacted a law making it a CAPITAL offense to provide an abortion to an Aryan woman. 

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Yeah. I'm glad you pronounced that.

The only difference is this: the Nazis wanted abortion to get rid of those they didnt like as a sort of punishment.

The "conservatives" of the US (ie nativists) are anti-abortion for people they don't like. Minorities have the largest percentage of abortions.

Most white couples can easily travel out of state to get the procedure, so the laws are only a token expression of being pro-life.

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You ARE the one that asserted Nazi's were anti abortion. They were not. They did forced abortions. Period.

They did forced abortion even in German women.

You were the one that asserted that.

Strannix talked about neonazi... not the Nazis of germany. One is the postwwII "movement" to somewhat be like the NAZIs. Nazi in the manner you used it is the Gov of Germany in the 30s and 40s until losing the WWII war.

SO YES.. you raised the Gov position of WWII era Nazis.

Here is your response to him:

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The Nazis prohibited German women from obtaining abortions. Yes, in this context, you Authoritarians are more analogous to them.

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I stated that those Nazis had FORCED abortions. Even with German women. That's fact.

Analogous to them??


YOU Authoritarians??

You are simply over the top. To state that people who KNOW abortion is murder and demand that another human life be protect by the same rights as you against murder are some how equal to Authoritarians in the same breath as NAZIs is more than over the top.

You are an arse.

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The crime of “Murder” is by definition a governmental creation, as is the case with EVERY statutory crime.

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So it's now some sort of social construct in need of tearing down.. It too is an Authoritarian rule?

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It is NOT defined to include abortion in any US jurisdiction, and historically few US jurisdictions have so-defined it.

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I don't care what "is" defined. I'm saying it's murder because it's a life that should be protected.

Anyone that relies on the Government to fix their problems is a Progressive Liberal Democrat. Big Government is not the answer.

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The Nazis prohibited German women from obtaining abortions. Yes, in this context, you Authoritarians are more analogous to them.

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Germany still has one of the strictest abortion laws.

Completely illegal in Ireland