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re: Watching Apollo 13 and realizing these were brave people

Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:53 pm to
Posted by Parmen
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 8:53 pm to
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America needs healthy competition. If we don’t, then we will turn into an overweight turd and go the way of the Romans. This patriotic if anything.


You're right. Maybe Rome should have begged the Parthians to compete with their tech and they'd have been better off.
Posted by RCDfan1950
United States
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:00 pm to
Whole heartedly agree. Go to the Smithsonian and stick your head inside the chunk of metal they rode out there in. Like the guys that stormed onto Normandy Beach and fought their way across Europe...no time for fear. Little R&R. Focused on the task.

I thank the Good Lord I was blessed to be reared by their campfires, and in the fields, schools, churches and homes that they commanded. And I fondly hope for another run in that same time (Parallel Universe) God-willing, because I think I can do a better job by them.

Posted by ChineseBandit58
Pearland, TX
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:22 pm to
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as a child who admired and was obsessed with the Apollo Program


Thank you for the kind words - my kids must be about your age - they lived in awe of the Apollo successes. We still relive some of the launches and especially the moon landings.

I was a minor cog - mostly in procedures development and crew training during the Apollo years. Got to know all the astronauts on a one-on-one level however. Still the highlight of my professional life. They were all the very best people we have produced.
Posted by Wolfhound45
Member since Nov 2009
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:29 pm to
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ChineseBandit58
Posted by Scoob
Near Exxon
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:34 pm to
I think OLMLandshark is right. I'm old enough to barely remenber some of the missions (the splashdowns in particular, in the early 70's), and we're missing the magic and wonder of that period. The shuttle, in comparison, was cool in that it came back intact and reusable, but it was basically a UPS truck in orbit, not a true space mission.

America does need to be challenged, because then when we unify and apply the best of our talents and expertise to win.
We're a bored and stagnant country right now; without making this a partisan issue, about half our government is so bored and directionless that transgender bathrooms are the best thing they can come up with pushing. I'm not speculating on what side anyone back then would fall on, but I look and wonder just how far down the list of priorities that would have been. Kennedy was a Dem, his brother was a social justice warrior (in the definition of it), and yet JFK had so many bigger things on his plate first, because he believed in "making America great". He damn sure wasn't going to be beat by the USSR to the Moon.
People may whine about the unnecessary and extravagant expenses of the space program when there are needs on Earth, but look at how much technology was advanced by the creative ingenuity required to make things work back then. If we had a similar goal in scope, and advanced technology so much further in the same amount of time (which likely would happen), we'd be able to apply it back here again.

We need a uniting goal.
Posted by EA6B
TX
Member since Dec 2012
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:38 pm to
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Also a record , traveling through harsh radiation ( Van Allen radiation belt) and not getting cancer or sick in the slightest while traveling in a tin can with no protection .


Fortunately the capsule was traveling at more than 24,000 Mph on a trajectory that took it through the least dense areas of the Van Allen belt, and the materials the space craft was constructed of offered some shielding. The engineers plugged all of this in to a time, distance, shielding exposure calculation and saw that the total dose would be acceptable. Dosimeters carried in the spacecraft indicated the total dose received over the 6 day trip was 2 Rads, a fatal dose would have been 300 rad.
Posted by TDFreak
Coast to Coast - L.A. to Chicago
Member since Dec 2009
8997 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:45 pm to
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I think the Apollo missions are the greatest achievement in human history.


Hold up. Are you saying that the Apollo missions were a greater achievement than when our present, woke nation legally recognized same-sex marriage and then confirmed by the Supreme Court?
Posted by OMLandshark
Member since Apr 2009
119977 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 9:55 pm to
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You're right. Maybe Rome should have begged the Parthians to compete with their tech and they'd have been better off.


I think the best time in Roman history is when they overcame Carthage. Everyone thousands of years later still remembers that. And then they got cocky and someone as lowborn and terrible as Atilla took them down.
Posted by MoarKilometers
Member since Apr 2015
20638 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:18 pm to
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I was a minor cog - mostly in procedures development and crew training during the Apollo years. Got to know all the astronauts on a one-on-one level however. Still the highlight of my professional life. They were all the very best people we have produced.

You may have met my grandpa... chief engineer of the saturn ivb stage engine of the apollo missions aka he puts them baws in translunar orbit. 2 of my cousins' other grandpa designed the crawler-transporter. Both men were ridiculously bad arse engineers. Can't even imagine the guys who exited the safe comforts of a rocket/shuttle.
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 11:51 pm
Posted by Ace Midnight
Between sanity and madness
Member since Dec 2006
94811 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:42 pm to
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I think the Apollo missions are the greatest achievement in human history.


I'll go one further - the Moon landings were the "High Water Mark" of humanity. I was alive for all the Apollo flights, having been born between the Apollo 1 fire and the Apollo 7 launch.

If human beings are here another 1000 years, they'll never exceed that. Far more likely to destroy each other than to put men on Mars, for example. Maybe that's the pessimism of soft middle age, but we clearly turned our sights inward after the Moon landings and nothing seems to be able to reverse that.
This post was edited on 2/3/18 at 11:43 pm
Posted by Jim Rockford
Member since May 2011
104406 posts
Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:52 pm to
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I will never forget those days. We were a completely different nation then. A better nation by far. We have sunk so far. 



Tap the brakes there, sport. In April 1970, our massively unpopular involvement in Vietnam was dragging on with no end in sight. The sitting president had already begun the machinations that would lead to his resignation. Racial and political protests were commonplace, often leading to violence that was met with violence by those in power. 17 days after Apollo 13 landed, four Kent State students were gunned down by their fellow citizens. Apollo 13 was a temporary reprieve from a chaotic and troubling time.

Anyone who thinks we are somehow living in an unprecedented period of divisiveness either doesn't know their history or is being obtuse. The only ones selling that narrative are the hyperpartisans and the media hacks egging them on. Regular people just want to be left the frick alone. They dont give a shite about Hannity or Madow's outrage du jour.
Posted by dr smartass phd
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Posted on 2/3/18 at 11:56 pm to
Posted by tigersbh
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 2/4/18 at 12:49 am to
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quote: I will never forget those days. We were a completely different nation then. A better nation by far. We have sunk so far. Tap the brakes there, sport. In April 1970, our massively unpopular involvement in Vietnam was dragging on with no end in sight. The sitting president had already begun the machinations that would lead to his resignation. Racial and political protests were commonplace, often leading to violence that was met with violence by those in power. 17 days after Apollo 13 landed, four Kent State students were gunned down by their fellow citizens. Apollo 13 was a temporary reprieve from a chaotic and troubling time. Anyone who thinks we are somehow living in an unprecedented period of divisiveness either doesn't know their history or is being obtuse. The only ones selling that narrative are the hyperpartisans and the media hacks egging them on. Regular people just want to be left the frick alone. They dont give a shite about Hannity or Madow's outrage du jour.


There are problems in every time period, but overall ChineseBandits is right. Most people who lived in both periods will agree.
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