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re: Watched Lone Survivor again last night

Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:02 pm to
Posted by StrongOffer
Member since Sep 2020
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:02 pm to
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What if we had never gone there to the extent we did? Who gets the blame for that?
George W Bush. I have no problem saying Republicans have been terrible too. Like Vietnam, we went into Afghanistan without a real plan.
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:10 pm to
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I've actually been consuming a lot of "spec ops" content lately, and what I've discovered is they're all liars and create drama. I have no idea which side of this story is correct, but it's far from the only one. Tim Kennedy being a fake was the hot topic for a while but now it's the Benghazi story taking the headlines.


I’ll agree with you for once. Most military veterans who are going on social media and podcasts for clout are very full of shite. That’s the main reason why I never watched Shawn Ryan because he lets his guests go overboard without stopping them and was completely wrong about his Tesla sources.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 4:11 pm
Posted by momentoftruth87
Your mom
Member since Oct 2013
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:12 pm to
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Apparently the entire story is almost totally made up. The Taliban video taped the gunfight


It’s highly scrutinized. The movie has little accuracy and Marcus was a shithead who got his team killed, from what I’ve read on.
Posted by Sofaking2
Member since Apr 2023
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:34 pm to
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Tim Kennedy being a fake was the hot topic for a while but now it's the Benghazi story taking the headlines.

I’d have to hear this, lol. Kennedy is a war veteran, green beret, sniper school graduate, ranger school graduate, UFC fighter, and 3rd degree black belt in Brazilian jujitsu. Show me the fakeness, lol. I’d love to be as fake as that.
Posted by Deuces
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Member since Nov 2011
15021 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:45 pm to
Anyone who wants to criticize Marcus Luttrell for that debacle can go and try it for themselves.

Not many people can join his boat and armchair quarterback.


Now, if you want to criticize him for being so vocal about it after, so be it.

For anyone who’s read his other books, he deployed after this incident to Iraq and got wounded again.

After this, the Navy retired him and asked him to write the book because they wanted it for recruiting/propaganda purposes.
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
6921 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 4:46 pm to
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I’d have to hear this, lol. Kennedy is a war veteran, green beret, sniper school graduate, ranger school graduate, UFC fighter, and 3rd degree black belt in Brazilian jujitsu. Show me the fakeness, lol. I’d love to be as fake as that.

TK is a douchebag who has lied about his combat record. SFP is right about this one.
Posted by Longhorn Actual
Member since Dec 2023
2269 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:08 pm to
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I’ve also read that the team (I think it was Delta?) that went in to retrieve the bodies of the fallen SEALs


It was 2nd Batt and an ODA. I have former teammates from both, who were there, and very personally involved.

The facts and the story do not align.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 5:09 pm
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:14 pm to
Thanks for sharing. I've heard similar from people I know, but I'm not SF.
Posted by rmnldr
Member since Oct 2013
39329 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:17 pm to
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There are a lot of people in the spec ops community with a visceral hatred for Marcus Lutrell and consider him a coward. Dudes that have a lot of standing refer to him as the lone runner.


He panicked, ran, and hid while his buddies were picked off. The movie further dramatizes what was already a massive tactical blunder by the SEALs and it remains a massive stain.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 5:20 pm
Posted by Sam Quint
Member since Sep 2022
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Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:20 pm to
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He panicked, ran, and hid while his buddies were picked off.

This is as factually unproven and unprovable as his account is.
Posted by LSUbacchus81
Hendersonville, TN
Member since Aug 2007
4419 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 5:25 pm to
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Not a popular opinion but I think we should never have left Iraq or Afghan. Those countries should have become small forward bases like Germany Korea and Japan. Permanently and forever US should have a presence and enforcement at those countries. We thought they were enough of a threat to go there we should never have left and we would be the custodians of those oil reserves and mines. Who give a a frick what everyone thinks. U.S. going there without the intent of staying and controlint anything good that could have come out of those shite holes. Edit: At least till every single penny we spent fighting there was paid


you sound like a neocon
Posted by Penrod
Member since Jan 2011
46538 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:10 pm to
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Such a great movie but pisses me off to no end knowing years later Joe Biden and his admin let the Taliban gain control back of Afghanistan. Biden should have been impeached for that and the only person who was fired was someone who criticized the decisions of the admin.

Biden deserves all kinds of criticism for the way that was handled, but Trump was withdrawing from Afghanistan, and once we were withdrawn, the Taliban was going to be in control.
Posted by KLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2003
10713 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:17 pm to
All those brave American soldiers that died in Iraq and Afghanistan for absolutely nothing.

It sickens me to think about it and made me go from a kick arse Warhawk to not wanting to fight any war unless our sovereignty is being threatened.

We fought wars for two decades and got nothing for them.

Screw our government for letting that happen.
Posted by IAmNERD
Member since May 2017
21644 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 6:56 pm to
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It’s a bit of a mixed bag, but by and large most agree SEALs are full of shite. I know some of its army vs navy but there’s also the quiet professionals vs book writers.

The SEALs are really a group of shitty people. Most of them are hell on wheels as warriors, but lots of horrible people when not behind a rifle.

Just go look into what the SEALs did to USAF Combat Controller John Chapman. Basically, he was killed while on a mission with some SEALs where the SEAL team leader left him for dead on top of a mountain. He ended up saving a bunch of Rangers when their helo crashed near him. SEAL leadership tried everything in their power to stop Chapman from getting the MOH including straight up lying about what went down. Then, it turns out there is drone footage of the entire incident and SEAL leadership relented on giving Chapman his MOH but with the caveat that the SEAL that left Chapman on the mountain get one too.

Pretty disgusting stuff.
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 6:57 pm
Posted by SwampMonster
Member since Feb 2025
321 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:03 pm to
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what I've discovered is they're all liars and create drama.


One would think an attorney would not engage in the fallacy of ad populum.
Posted by bhtigerfan
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2008
32250 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:08 pm to
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I’ve often wondered why if you’re going to turn them loose why not tie their hands behind their backs and legs together so at the very least they are either hampered in their movements down to the village or have to spend time and effort getting freed.
Exactly.

I would have killed them before I would have done what they did.
Posted by prouddawg
Member since Sep 2024
3892 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:10 pm to
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I've actually been consuming a lot of "spec ops" content lately, and what I've discovered is they're all liars and create drama.


piece of shite comment
This post was edited on 4/29/25 at 7:11 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
Simple Solutions to Complex Probs
Member since Jan 2004
450259 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:20 pm to
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SFP is right about this one.

To just correct you a little, it's not me saying this. I am saying that it's other spec ops guys saying this.

For example:



Posted by AUstar
Member since Dec 2012
18434 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:29 pm to
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isceral hatred for Marcus Lutrell and consider him a coward. Dudes that have a lot of standing refer to him as the lone runner.



He did run and admits he ran. I can't blame him. Your entire team is dead, what else can you do? Just stand there and get shot "just because?"
Posted by Mid Iowa Tiger
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21648 posts
Posted on 4/29/25 at 7:38 pm to
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Your entire team is dead


Word is they weren't dead when he ran.

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