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re: Was LBJ the worst President of all time?
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:55 am to TaTa Toothy
Posted on 7/15/18 at 11:55 am to TaTa Toothy
He was in fact the worst.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 1:13 pm to TaTa Toothy
He’s up there. The “greatest generation” is lionized for winning WWII, but they don’t catch near enough flack for starting us on the path that led us to where we are today. The military-industrial complex, war on drugs, welfare state, etc...all ushered in by that same generation.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 1:23 pm to TaTa Toothy
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Hard to top.
Trump has accepted the challenge.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 1:57 pm to LSUgusto
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I'm halfway through the series, and I don't think LBJ is getting a pass at all. He looks awful. Probably not as bad as he should, but still pretty bad.
I thought Burn's carpet bombed the hell out of the Johnson admin
Posted on 7/15/18 at 1:58 pm to Froman
Explain that Forman.
I would like to know just what any President has done to compare to the evil ineptitude of LBJ.
I would like to know just what any President has done to compare to the evil ineptitude of LBJ.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 2:52 pm to Roaad
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I often refer to him as the only truly evil man to ever hold the office
THIS - he will forever be my candidate for worst POTUS. Obama comes close for optimizing the evil that LBJ instituted, but without LBJ, there would have not been a fertile field for BHO to cultivate. BHO would still be selling crack on the streets of Chicago - or dead from a drive by shooting.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:11 pm to TaTa Toothy
LBJ signed the naturalization and immigration act right? If so he's def up there. Wilson & his work for with re-establishing Fed will always have him at #1 in my mind. Set us up for modern slavery
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:20 pm to Old Money
Nothing will top drafting 500000 18 year old boys and sending them off to a war he didn't expect to win or even had a plan to try to win.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:21 pm to ragincajun03
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He was unabashed racist too.
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These Negroes, they’re getting pretty uppity these days and that’s a problem for us since they’ve got something now they never had before, the political pull to back up their uppityness. Now we’ve got to do something about this, we’ve got to give them a little something, just enough to quiet them down, not enough to make a difference. For if we don’t move at all, then their allies will line up against us and there’ll be no way of stopping them, we’ll lose the filibuster and there’ll be no way of putting a brake on all sorts of wild legislation. It’ll be Reconstruction all over again.
Posted on 7/15/18 at 3:23 pm to TX Tiger
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Gulf of Tonkin was the biggest false flag operation ever
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Bigger than 9/11?
Given that 9/11 wasn’t a false flag, I’m gonna say YES.
Annnndddd let the games begin...
This post was edited on 7/15/18 at 3:25 pm
Posted on 7/21/18 at 11:25 pm to OBReb6
quote:I just finished watching the whole thing today.
Nixon wasn’t granted any of the same benefits AT ALL.
Yes, it went much more biased during the Nixon years.
My observations of that:
- It glorified the anti-war movement, and almost made music videos for them. They never explained why they weren't more popular. They'd show anti-war protests, and bad things happening to them. They'd then mention a poll of the vast majority of Americans against them without ever explaining why. Almost like America just wanted to abuse them, shoot at them, and kill them for no reason.
- Almost every person interviewed for the entire documentary ended up being against the war. As in my first bullet point, they did very little to represent those that were for the war and thought a better outcome might be imaginable with better planning and execution.
- They used the lack of falling dominoes after the war as evidence that it would not have happened, but never gave consideration that our effort in Vietnam is what possibly stopped those dominoes from falling.
- They gave very little credit to the good things the ARVN did on their own. The VietCong and residents of North Vietnam were very well represented, while there was very little from the ARVN perspective.
- Real inspection and criticism of the Communist North was basically glanced over. They never went into detail about the North's atrocities, and "re-education" tactics on the Vietnamese people. A sentence or two at certain points seemed to suffice. While mentioning torture of American POW's, they rarely said how and to what extent, while they went into great detail about American war crimes, which were exceptions to the norm.
- You're right that, in retrospect, they kind of equated the roles of Kennedy, LBJ, and Nixon as all bad, but failed to adequately demean Kennedy and LBJ as horribly as they did Nixon, nor the Democrat Congress that turned their backs on Vietnam just to make sure that the loss was hung on Nixon/Ford. Of the five presidents involved, I'd say Eisenhower, Nixon and Ford were the least bad, while Kennedy and LBJ were absolute screw-ups, but it wasn't presented that way. They never gave Nixon credit for ending the war, while glorifying guys like John Kerry who were using the war for personal political gain.
I could go on, but those were my big takeaways. Fairly typical biases of Democrat journalists covering that war for all these years. While more objective than most portrayals, it fell into many of the same traps.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 10:04 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 2:46 am to TaTa Toothy
George W. Bush was all time worst, then Carter, then the geezer before Lincoln and then maybe LBJ.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 2:47 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 5:09 am to TaTa Toothy
I have thought LBJ was the worst POTUS in history and have been proclaiming that opinion for 40 years.
I have not changed my opinion, but the gap between him and other bad POTUS' has shrunk with the advent of Obama - BHO is right on LBJ's heels for that distinction.
It is only the fact that without LBJ, Obama would just be another crackhead in Chicago.
I have not changed my opinion, but the gap between him and other bad POTUS' has shrunk with the advent of Obama - BHO is right on LBJ's heels for that distinction.
It is only the fact that without LBJ, Obama would just be another crackhead in Chicago.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 8:06 am to Shiftyplus1
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This probably explains, for instance, why George W. Bush could barely read
From the article. The Left is still obsessed with him.
Speaking of LBJ:
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R.I.P. to a great man
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 8:08 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 8:09 am to TaTa Toothy
Not even close - Obama was the worst. LBJ was liberal democrat. Obama is a socialist-marxist.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 8:25 am to TaTa Toothy
It was Jimmy Carter. This cannot be said enough.
Posted on 7/22/18 at 8:29 am to TBoy
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Why hasn’t Trump shown us his dick?
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TBoy
Wants to see Trump's dick. Surprise, surprise.
This post was edited on 7/22/18 at 8:31 am
Posted on 7/22/18 at 8:31 am to TaTa Toothy
Extended the great depression by 7 years.
UCLA
Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.
Without the policies, they contend that the Depression would have ended in 1936 instead of the year when they believe the slump actually ended: 1943.
"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said. "Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened."
UCLA
Two UCLA economists say they have figured out why the Great Depression dragged on for almost 15 years, and they blame a suspect previously thought to be beyond reproach: President Franklin D. Roosevelt.
After scrutinizing Roosevelt's record for four years, Harold L. Cole and Lee E. Ohanian conclude in a new study that New Deal policies signed into law 71 years ago thwarted economic recovery for seven long years.
Without the policies, they contend that the Depression would have ended in 1936 instead of the year when they believe the slump actually ended: 1943.
"The fact that the Depression dragged on for years convinced generations of economists and policy-makers that capitalism could not be trusted to recover from depressions and that significant government intervention was required to achieve good outcomes," Cole said. "Ironically, our work shows that the recovery would have been very rapid had the government not intervened."
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