re: Was CNN, ABC, NBC, MSNBC, etc. considered fake news before Trump?

You are singing in the shower and think you are ready for a broadway show.

You are not nearly as smart as you think you are.

Dumbest post of the week.

We should all chip in and buy the OP a copy of Bernard Goldberg's book "Bias." It's an approximately twenty year old book it shouldn't cost more than ten dollars or so by now.

You sir, are an idiot.

Journalism has always had some sort of taint to it.

There was the Yellow Journalism days back in the late 1800’s when newspapers were the only source for information. During these days the drum beat of the printing press led to the Spanish American War. It was called yellow because the paper was so cheap it turned yellow, and the stories printed were with the same style as the National Enquirer but on a local level.

Then back in the World War I, World War II, and Korean War days tight government control of the press censored or controlled news stories about the war could be considered propaganda.

In the early days of TV news, direct sponsorship of news (your Esso reporter) led to tight control as to what was said and how.

Then the graphic nature of the TV coverage of Vietnam led to the eventual end of the draft and the quagmire of the war.

Then the fever pitch coverage of the Watergate scandal and eventual resignation of Richard Nixon.

I could go on to modern day stuff because that is when it exploded once you started to have cable news, talk radio, and the internet once opinion replaced information in the media.

I will say this about modern journalism is when you have pundants talking about something about politics and they use the same code words or terminology to describe something or someone is what is troubling in today’s media environment.

This has been going on since the 1990’s. I would laugh my arse off when Rush would play a montage of these pundants or reporters saying the same thing almost verbatim. It kinda makes you wonder who is colluding with who.

Those outlets were able to control narratives through virtue signaling BT (before Trump). Call a conservative politician or proposal sexist/racist/evil and watch them backpedal to lose the label. Trump DNGAF. He brushes aside these criticisms. The left media isn’t used to that not working so they have moved from exaggeration to lying in their coverage. That’s why no one takes it seriously now. Their message is always predictable. Trump can do nothing right. Do you not see this?

MSNBC and CNN definitely were considered as such.