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re: Wapo: Bernie Sanders notified by US intel that Russia is trying to help his campaign

Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:26 pm to
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:26 pm to
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Yes, believing the Russians advanced the candidacies of fringe candidates is wilder than believing the military intel is dropping crumbs to boomers on a child-porn image board to bring down a world cabal of satanic pedovores.



Crack a history book, you loon.

The Russians/Soviets have been fricking around in our elections since at least the 1930s.

An outsider wins, mainly because enough people have had enough of the status quo, and all of a sudden, it’s a menace to the republic.
Posted by ShortyRob
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:27 pm to
I would just like to point out that I'm not even sure what the big deal is does prefer one candidate or the other

It's a bunch of false outrage. The media didn't care one bit when some pretty awful countries preferred Obama.

I mean Russia isn't exactly benevolent but in the grand scheme of things I don't really care who they prefer in our elections. You would have to be retarded to simply vote for the other person based on that

I guarantee you that if the Russians preferred the Democrat in the general election the media would say it was because they were afraid the Republican candidate was going to start a war.

This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 4:28 pm
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:27 pm to
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Bernie is now a confirmed Russia/Putin asset

Link?
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he is a traitor

What proof do you have?
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Right, Dems?

Oh, I thought you were addressing me, my bad.
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:28 pm to
I demand a 2 year special counsel where Bernie associates are indicted for process crimes

Can't wait for Dems to denounce Bernie for being a Russian asset!!
This post was edited on 2/21/20 at 4:31 pm
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:29 pm to
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Link?

Our Intel community is not to be questioned
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What proof do you have?

Our Intel community is not to be questioned

I demand a special counsel
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:30 pm to
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Right, Dems?


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Oh, I thought you were addressing me, my bad.


You try way too hard.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:32 pm to
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This is exactly the kind of divisiveness that the Russians would like to sow in us. That thread is filled with secessionist traitors and Russian bots. Sometimes it's hard to tell the difference.


Giving people the sense that they can't tell what the truth is is definitely a goal of Russian disinformation, but the the Q theory is generally way more earnest than a lot of the cynicism of poliboard generally. It gives a bunch of bored people a sense of purpose - that they're working out clues to a massive mystery that normies can't conceive of and that when the Great Awakening comes they'll finally be hailed as visionaries instead of kooks.
Posted by Bunyan
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:34 pm to
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Giving people the sense that they can't tell what the truth is is definitely a goal of Russian disinformation,

Damn, you fell for Russian disinformation bad, then

You fully believed in Trump/Russia collusion which derived from a dossier that was found to be Russian disinformation from the beginning

Man, that's freaking embarrassing. Yikes!
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:34 pm to
Do you honestly think Russia is the CAUSE of conspiracy theories?

Do you remember the bush and obama years? Just as many conspiracies

It is alarmism dude.

You are doing exactly what russia wants- sowing doubt about candidates
Posted by Godfather1
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:34 pm to
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It gives a bunch of bored people a sense of purpose - that they're working out clues to a massive mystery that normies can't conceive of and that when the Great Awakening comes they'll finally be hailed as visionaries instead of kooks.



Boy, if this isn’t ever a load of projection.
Posted by TigerDoc
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:35 pm to
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The Russians/Soviets have been fricking around in our elections since at least the 1930s.


I get it, baw. It's just that we don't generally have an American campaign and Administration abet it.
Posted by Godfather1
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Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:38 pm to
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I get it, baw. It's just that we don't generally have an American campaign and Administration abet it.


OK, Doc. You win.
Trump abetted the Russians in aiding in his big win. In fact, here are his two contacts:
Posted by TrueTiger
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:38 pm to
Teddy Kennedy sure aided and abetted
Posted by HailHailtoMichigan!
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:39 pm to
Dude, listen to yourself


Abetting??

The Hillary campaign used a Kremlin disinformation document (dossier) to get the fbi to open a surveillance campaign against a trump campaign official.

Posted by Bunyan
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Member since Oct 2016
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:39 pm to
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It's just that we don't generally have an American campaign and Administration abet it.

Ummm...the Hillary campaign paid for a false Russian dossier used to obtain fraudulent FISA warrants to spy on the Trump campaign.

The Obama administration knew this Russian information was bullshite but still spied on their opponents, anyway

You supported that, though. You pushed Russian propaganda on this board for years.

Very embarrassing, man
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:40 pm to
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Our Intel community is not to be questioned

Our intel community has not said Bernie was a Russian asset, or even that he's been cooperating with the Russians.
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Our Intel community is not to be questioned

Don't you trust Putin more than our intel communities?
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I demand a special counsel

It's this very kind of transmogrification of the issues that makes me suspect you of being a bot. Just because the Russians are taking action to promote Bernie does not mean that Bernie has had anything to do with it - JUST LIKE just because the Russians took action to support Trump doesn't mean he had anything to do with it.
NEWSFLASH: The Russians are capable of acting on their own to achieve their goals.

But if course, you want to make it seem like something else. That's why I'm suspicious of you.
Posted by Godfather1
What WAS St George, Louisiana
Member since Oct 2006
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:41 pm to
Incidentally, Doc...in case you haven’t noticed we have a booming economy.

Vlad really needs to hire better agents.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44071 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:41 pm to
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Giving people the sense that they can't tell what the truth is is definitely a goal of Russian disinformation, but the the Q theory is generally way more earnest than a lot of the cynicism of poliboard generally. It gives a bunch of bored people a sense of purpose - that they're working out clues to a massive mystery that normies can't conceive of and that when the Great Awakening comes they'll finally be hailed as visionaries instead of kooks.


I like your style. You're definitely not a bot.
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9903 posts
Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:41 pm to
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Do you honestly think Russia is the CAUSE of conspiracy theories?

Do you remember the bush and obama years? Just as many conspiracies


Disinformation is simply an accelerant and most disinformation comes from local actors, not foreign governments. You've got Macedonian teens putting alarmism out there for credulous boomers to make a buck, not for any political purpose. It's a mess out there.

It's the modern infosphere that is allowing this to happen. When the printing press came out, Europe was torn apart & it's spread was way slower than tech connectivity and social media. Meanwhile, neoliberal economics is melting down simultaneously, so we're in some shite.
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 2/21/20 at 4:41 pm to
they did this in 2016 as well, but the media was just in a tizzy to accurately report things

a huge chunk of that Facebook money went straight to Bernie/progressive causes
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