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re: Vote for budget in happening now in House. *******PASSED!!!!!

Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:53 am to
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:53 am to
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But Republicans from states like New York, New Jersey, Illinois and California argued that their constituents rely on the deduction. While some are open to making changes to SALT -- such as capping the income level at which taxpayers could use it -- others don't favor any kind of compromise and want tax writers to leave SALT completely alone.
Too bad, so sad. The rest of us without those huge right offs have been floating their share for them in federal taxes.

If they don't like it, elect responsible local legislators that will reduce your in-state tax burden.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 11:55 am
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 11:58 am to
Did you see where Peter King voted no? Says it will hurt his district.
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45763 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:07 pm to
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Did you see where Peter King voted no? Says it will hurt his district.
No, I'm sitting in an airport ignoring CNN and paying attention to my TD brethren.
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:10 pm to
We're here to please. I see Amash voted it against it also. No surprise from him but King surprised me.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15111 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:17 pm to
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No surprise from him but King surprised me.
Why would it surprise you that King doesn't want the tax deductions that his constituents have use because their state is taking their asses to the cleaners? In the end, him making a political decision based on the desires of his constituents is what he should be doing.

Thankfully there were enough Rep. Congressmen to outweigh those from CA, NY & NJ.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 12:18 pm
Posted by Janky
Team Primo
Member since Jun 2011
35957 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:18 pm to
Tax reform won't get done if they try to remove SALT credits in my opinion.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68263 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:21 pm to
This is the first budget passed in 8 years, why haven't I heard how much it is and who gets what spending? Is anything cut?
Posted by atlgamecockman
Washington, DC
Member since Dec 2012
3822 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:26 pm to
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Too bad, so sad. The rest of us without those huge right offs have been floating their share for them in federal taxes.


You know blue states pay more than red states in federal taxes yes?
Posted by LSUgusto
Member since May 2005
19222 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:26 pm to
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Is anything cut?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118816 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:27 pm to
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This is the first budget passed in 8 years, why haven't I heard how much it is and who gets what spending? Is anything cut?




The budget is not passed. This is just a motion to send the budget framework to committee. It’s a procedural hurdle, but a big one. It effectively greases the skids to formally passing the budget.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15111 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:27 pm to
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Tax reform won't get done if they try to remove SALT credits in my opinion.

It's going to be really hard to do without cutting the SALT credits, especially if the 401K limits are off the table as per Trump. Hopefully they can afford the vote loses from the high state tax Representatives, and still have the votes to pass it with the SALT credits cuts.
This post was edited on 10/26/17 at 12:29 pm
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:30 pm to
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Why would it surprise you that King doesn't want the tax deductions that his constituents have use because their state is taking their asses to the cleaners? In the end, him making a political decision based on the desires of his constituents is what he should be doing.


So you say frick it to what the vast majority of Reps. nationwide want, to appease a few handfuls of local people? Yep, that's why shite never gets done. If he were a state senator or representative, I'd definitely agree with you. However, when you're elected to a national office, I think the fate of the nation comes before the fate of your constituents.
Posted by Jake88
Member since Apr 2005
68263 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:32 pm to
Then there is some shitty reporting. But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Sometimes I simply don't feel like following extremely closely.
Posted by Bamatab
Member since Jan 2013
15111 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:43 pm to
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So you say frick it to what the vast majority of Reps. nationwide want, to appease a few handfuls of local people? Yep, that's why shite never gets done. If he were a state senator or representative, I'd definitely agree with you. However, when you're elected to a national office, I think the fate of the nation comes before the fate of your constituents.

And here I thought that the title Representative meant that they represented their constituents. I guess I was wrong.

You are right that it's why we haven't been able to get crap done, especially on the Republican side (because the Republicans are a lot more conscious about their viewpoints, and their constituents). And it pisses me off as well. But I can't fault a representative from California who doesn't want to remove tax credits from a people that are already being taxed to hell and back by their state. Again, it sucks, but it is what it is.
Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:43 pm to
Are the discussions on the 401k deduction on lowering the limit or requiring taxes to be paid on all income placed in your 401k (i.e. they are requiring us to count it in our taxable income)?

Currently, the limit is the first $18,000 into 401k are tax exempt, right?

That means at 5% of your salary, you'd have to make over $360k in taxable income before this affects you. Are the rumors that the limit will be lowered or that the entire option of pre-tax for 401k contributions will be removed?
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24656 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:45 pm to
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Uh.. who?




Probably McCuck
Posted by Homesick Tiger
Greenbrier, AR
Member since Nov 2006
54210 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:47 pm to
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Again, it sucks, but it is what it is.


Posted by Geauxgurt
Member since Sep 2013
10457 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:48 pm to
SALT deductions could just be capped to a reasonable amount. Most places that are whining about this are the ones with the highest incomes as well in Cali and New York.

Question is will it hurt Louisiana since state income tax there is roughly 6%?
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118816 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:49 pm to
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Then there is some shitty reporting. But I suppose I shouldn't be surprised. Sometimes I simply don't feel like following extremely closely.




I know...I get it. The written MSM news format is frustrating. You get to the brass tax about the penultimate (second to last) paragraph.

Despite their liberal bias I kind of like the Daily Mail. At least they give you 5 or 6 bullet points to a story and then you can decide whether or not to delve into the details. I just like that format better.
Posted by GumboPot
Member since Mar 2009
118816 posts
Posted on 10/26/17 at 12:51 pm to
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Are the discussions on the 401k deduction on lowering the limit or requiring taxes to be paid on all income placed in your 401k (i.e. they are requiring us to count it in our taxable income)?



They won't touch 401Ks. That's off the table.

Sources: Trump and Rubio.
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