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re: Visiting family in Texas this week. Down here from MN

Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:03 am to
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:03 am to
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Just as bigoted and ignorant as saying all people in cities are shallow, virtue-signaling poseurs.

I know lots of people in rural areas that are ambitious, intellectually curious, and driven. They just prefer to live somewhere with less crap around them.

Stop judging “the other side” by the caricatures or extremes. Says more about you than it does them.


Obviously there are exceptions but generally speaking anyone left, say, in West Virginia coal country, is most likely simply to damned sorry to make a better life for themselves and are happier than a pig in shite living in squalor. Y'all readily accept this premise as it applies to people in the inner city who live in the city equivalent of a west Virgina coal mine town and do not better themselves....and both parties are on the teat to the same degree so that ain't the difference...we all know what the difference is but y'all aint honest enough to admit it....
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Member since Dec 2019
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:03 am to
"You know what winning the rat race makes you? I'm sure a smart fella like you can figure it out."

Yes, it makes you the winning rat and not the dumb arse rat living in a mobile home with no underpinning and the front door missing. And y'all know that is a pretty standard sight in rural America......
This post was edited on 8/4/20 at 9:05 am
Posted by NineLineBind
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:35 am to
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Yes, the people who collect chickens and process them and other sources of food do live in rural areas....but the people who manage those operations live in Metropolitan areas...as do the people who finance those operations....the people working the land, even if they own it, are merely share croppers. This is more true than it is not...there are still some farmers who live on their own land and produce food but they are far and few between because corporate farming is far more efficient.

You undercut your own argument that rural people can’t cut it in the city. First of all, you over generalize about a group of people. Secondly, you can’t farm or ranch in areas that are largely paved. That was my original point. Third, some smart people prefer to live in the country by choice. You paint with too broad a brush, IMO.
Posted by Gtmodawg
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 9:55 am to
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You undercut your own argument that rural people can’t cut it in the city. First of all, you over generalize about a group of people. Secondly, you can’t farm or ranch in areas that are largely paved. That was my original point. Third, some smart people prefer to live in the country by choice. You paint with too broad a brush, IMO.



Obviously broad generalizations are not intellectually honest. Of course there are many people in rural America who choose to live in rural America and are more than capable of making a living anywhere. But I don't think this is the rule and I know for certain in my own experience it is not the rule. I have friends in rural America who are brilliant and making some serious bank...but for every one of those there are 100 trailers with 2 or 3 kids in them living on the government teat and the parents are too sorry to better their own lives or that of their kids. Again, most conservatives are MORE than willing to accept this premise about people in the inner city living in squalor on the government teat...that they are too sorry to better themselves and their progeny....yet many are unwilling to admit that a person in rural America is far more statistically likely to live in poverty and receive assistance from the taxpayer than people in metropolitan areas are. Many of those people in rural America would not be living in poverty and on the teat if they did a similar amount of work in a city that they do in the country....but they are not driven to better themselves. They are scared to leave their hometowns.

This nation was built by crazy people....when a european told his neighbor "I am going to America to live" his neighbor's inevitable reply was "you are crazy!". The amount or risk tolerance needed to enable that crazy person to actually immigrate is what made this country what it is....and people in rural america who won't better themselves there or move where they can are the same as the old european too scared to risk it all on a dream....and rural America suffers from this lack of drive and risk taking because the people dwelling there are, in large part, either scared, ignorant, or just damned sorry and wont better their lot in life.
Posted by Zach
Gizmonic Institute
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Posted on 8/4/20 at 10:02 am to
Someone did a fascinating study on regional friendliness two years ago. They got a pool of veteran business people who spent their careers flying all over America with their companies. One question: 'What state has the most courteous and friendly people?'
The winner was South Carolina.
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