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re: Video of UnitedHealthCare CEO Execution
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:29 pm to Auburn1968
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:29 pm to Auburn1968
After watching the video you can see gas escape at the chamber after the first round. Looks like he had a FTE and cycled to shoot the second round. He may have racked the slide on the third shot just to be sure.
This guy isn’t a professional. A professional would have never gone to Starbucks where almost certain to be cameras. Also shooting out front of the hotel is almost certainly a spot for cameras. Pros would have waited for a spot without any video surveillance and would have put more distance between themselves and the target. This was personal.
This guy isn’t a professional. A professional would have never gone to Starbucks where almost certain to be cameras. Also shooting out front of the hotel is almost certainly a spot for cameras. Pros would have waited for a spot without any video surveillance and would have put more distance between themselves and the target. This was personal.
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Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:29 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
Joe and Hunter cleaning up witnesses.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:31 pm to troyt37
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but if you are going to make your play in a fairly well lit area in front of witnesses, I would think that minimizing the time you are there would be paramount.
If you know there's gonna be witnesses left behind, then make sure that it's done right.
The biggest concern is how long it takes them to call cops, and how long cops take to get there.
Typically the time to dial and get info to 911 is close to a minute. Which for most of us, we could mag dump a pistol into somebody several times, in that amount of time.
Now it takes anywhere from 2 to 9 minutes (in good timing) for LEO to get to the scene.
For something that only takes seconds, this is plenty of time to be proper.
This response time, is of course.. assuming 911 doesn't put the caller on hold. Some area's 911 offices have had wait times of over 40 minutes before getting through to a dispatcher.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 3:35 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:34 pm to monsterballads
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Did he use a damn card? Lol
damn cameras everywhere.
have to be concealed better. use cash only. no prints on casing when he loaded magazine. dispose of weapon. now he is traced on a citibike. means nothing as long as they do not have it rented to him.
he best hope nobody rats him out. man someone might recognize him in that starbucks photo.
doubtful the suppressor was registered in his name. even if so, how many of those are there for any basic caliber? there are 3.5 million registered suppressors on record now with the BATF. as long as they cannot find it with weapon they would have no clue who it was registered to only knowing it was a 9mm. doubt he lived in NYC. that would be first thing BATF checks.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 3:48 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:48 pm to TigerAxeOK
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1). Shooter is an amateur.
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Detectives have retrieved a water bottle and candy wrapper from the area where he was apparently waiting and are currently running tests and analyses to determine if there are any usable fingerprints or DNA, law enforcement sources said.
LINK
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:49 pm to Midget Death Squad
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sure did have enough skill and knowhow to pull this off calm and coolly. He even takes the time to put two more rounds in the poor guy before finally leaving.
I'm not arguing that you're wrong. I think you're correct.
I just wanted to bring it into the conversation, that the cool and calm can be brought about by drugs.
Gangs do it quite often in expectation of a fight, or other violent activities. Militaries have been known to do it as well, before sending troops off into the battlefield.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:49 pm to lsufan1971
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After watching the video you can see gas escape at the chamber after the first round. Looks like he had a FTE and cycled to shoot the second round. He may have racked the slide on the third shot just to be sure.
This guy isn’t a professional. A professional would have never gone to Starbucks where almost certain to be cameras. Also shooting out front of the hotel is almost certainly a spot for cameras. Pros would have waited for a spot without any video surveillance and would have put more distance between themselves and the target. This was personal.
These types of hits come up on my Instagram algorithm from time to time.
Seems like middle of the run hired hit in Mexico to me.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:52 pm to thermal9221
If nothing else this thread proves that nobody on here really knows shite
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:55 pm to Florida_Man1981
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If nothing else this thread proves that nobody on here really knows shite
I was thinking the exact same thing.
All these people thinking they can tell anything about this.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:58 pm to bbvdd
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The gun is a B&T VP9. I don't think it is. With a VP9 or Six-45 or whatever, it's a bolt action type action.
Agreed here. No way it's the VP9.
Simply for the question of "Why?"
Why would somebody use such a specialty piece, hard to come by, and easy to distinguish with LEO for a PUBLIC hit?
Posted on 12/4/24 at 3:58 pm to SouthEndzoneTiger
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Not necessarily.
Yes necessarily. We have video of him assassinating someone in cold blood.
Doesn't mean he's a pro, but he definitely meets the requirements to be considered a cold blooded assassin.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:01 pm to wackatimesthree
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I was thinking the exact same thing.
All these people thinking they can tell anything about this.
Bunch of overweight suburb dwellers giving us their expert takes on a targeted assassination. Comedic gold.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:03 pm to troyt37
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According to the police video, it was a 9mm. Three spent casings and 3 rounds were left at the scene. Occam says it was most likely the suppressor causing cycling problems. Pretty common. You can't just screw a suppressor onto anything and have it work correctly. But we have people here impressed with his ability to rack the slide to clear a jam, so
Thanks for pointing it out that it was a 9mm Troy. I read that later on in the comments, so went back and edited the post you replied to. But I appreciate you correcting on that info.
Yeah. To be honest, I only see one spot where he missed a beat on the pistol not being ready to fire.
Second shot (I think) where he looks down at the slide, after a dead trigger pull.
So yeah. At least he has good skills!
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:09 pm to riccoar
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You would have tested the gun to know exactly how it reacted with the suppressor.
Optimally, or even normally... Agreed.
Manhattan. New York massive gun control state. Also anti suppressor state.
IF he brought the piece in from out of state, yeah he may have had a chance to check the operation, ahead of the mark. (Good luck getting a gun through NY airports without getting arrested, or not having serious issues)
Or he could have driven in.
If he didn't bring it in from out of state And got it locally, there's really NOT a lot of areas where you can test fire something like THAT without drawing attention that you don't want, in NY.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:16 pm to Bunk Moreland
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I mean, you need your mocha frappucino before executing someone.
Not the way that Starbucks crap runs through me.
I'd have to pee halfway into the getaway!
Their mocha frap is pretty good (overpriced!) stuff tho!
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 4:17 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:16 pm to Decatur
Going out on a limb here and saying he’s not a “pro”
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:22 pm to bbvdd
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you don't see a flash with almost all silencers
Suppressors with poor baffling, you do. Those are louder tho too, because they don't handle the spent gasses properly.
Yeah, sorry. My experiences. I don't have people that want to fill out the paperwork to out themselves to the ATF.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 4:23 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:24 pm to monsterballads
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Going out on a limb here and saying he’s not a “pro”
I agree. Heard on the news that the shooter left all his casings and left 3 rounds on the ground.
The crime lab will scrap some dna off those rounds and prints if he wasn't smart enough to wear gloves while loading his magazine.
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:25 pm to catfish 62
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Wouldn’t they just get ballistics from the bullets in his body?
Yes they can. But it requires matching it up to spent rounds from the weapon.
I dunno if this guy got caught or not, or if they recovered the weapon or not.
This post was edited on 12/4/24 at 4:25 pm
Posted on 12/4/24 at 4:25 pm to John Barron
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