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re: Video of the shooter for those that haven’t seen it
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:51 am to pvilleguru
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:51 am to pvilleguru
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More of them are very lucky they are alive
How are they lucky? As far as we have heard, that was the only gun shot fired at the Capitol yesterday.
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Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:51 am to shel311
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So should the 100s/1000s of protestors be allowed to get right up to that basement door and those guards before action is taken?
Absolutely not. But that shooting happened nowhere near the basement.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:52 am to RollTide1987
quote:If I was s domestic Terrorist who breached the US Capitol while an election was being certified, I would consider myself extremely lucky to walk out of that Capitol building alive.
How are they lucky? As far as we have heard, that was the only gun shot fired at the Capitol yesterday.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:52 am to RollTide1987
quote:Where should the stopping point have been?
Absolutely not. But that shooting happened nowhere near the basement.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:53 am to BiteMe2020
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He should be tried for manslaughter.
If she was black he probably would be.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:53 am to RollTide1987
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How are they lucky? As far as we have heard, that was the only gun shot fired at the Capitol yesterday.
How is it not obvious that they are lucky?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:53 am to shel311
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Where should the stopping point have been?
The barricades outside the building, perhaps?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:54 am to pvilleguru
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How is it not obvious that they are lucky?
You tell me.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:55 am to RollTide1987
quote:So outside the building is the very last spot someone should be in and if you crossed that spot, you should be shot, is that what you're stating?
The barricades outside the building, perhaps?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:56 am to pvilleguru
quote:If these people were a danger to the VP and Congress then why just shoot once? If the LEO thought it was justified then why not assume a position at the top of a stairwell and mow down the approaching "mob"? This one guy was Congress's last line of defense? Why were LEO mixed in the masses like sheepdogs but just watching?
The VP, every member of congress, and the rest of the staff.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:57 am to RougeDawg
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I thought Biden said to shoot them in the legs?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 10:58 am to WildManGoose
quote:Perhaps only 1 person tried to cross the line that was the last line allowable before shooting on site?
If these people were a danger to the VP and Congress then why just shoot once?
quote:Would you be ok with that?
If the LEO thought it was justified then why not assume a position at the top of a stairwell and mow down the approaching "mob"?
quote:There were multiple guys in that hallway, and obviously we can all assume even more guys behind each subsequent hallway behind whatever it was they were set on protecting.
This one guy was Congress's last line of defense?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:02 am to WildManGoose
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If these people were a danger to the VP and Congress then why just shoot once?
He hit his target and no one decided to try again?
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If the LEO thought it was justified then why not assume a position at the top of a stairwell and mow down the approaching "mob"?
Because this allowed him to have a barricade in front of him, and anyone coming through the door would have to slowly climb through a broken window.
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This one guy was Congress's last line of defense?
Last line? No. First line where they decided to have authority to shoot? Probably.
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Why were LEO mixed in the masses like sheepdogs but just watching?
Different chain of command? Sympathetic cops that allowed the situation to escalate?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:03 am to shel311
quote:And yet multiple people were photographed in the chambers and in congressional offices. Seems like they put the line in the wrong place if that was it.
Perhaps only 1 person tried to cross the line that was the last line allowable before shooting on site?
quote:No, I wouldn't. Which is my point. If you think it was justified for one then why not all? They were either a danger, or they were not.
Would you be ok with that?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:05 am to WildManGoose
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No, I wouldn't. Which is my point. If you think it was justified for one then why not all? They were either a danger, or they were not
Wow.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:05 am to WildManGoose
quote:Why?
And yet multiple people were photographed in the chambers and in congressional offices. Seems like they put the line in the wrong place if that was it.
Maybe those spots are much farther away than the spot of the shooting to places where sensitive information and/or Congressmen were in that moment.
So why would the chambers or offices be more important spots if that's not where people were or near where they were in that moment?
quote:If all people who tried to cross that barricaded door were shot, what would the issue be? That would pretty clearly be the shoot on site spot if you cross that line, so what's the issue?
No, I wouldn't. Which is my point. If you think it was justified for one then why not all? They were either a danger, or they were not.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:08 am to pvilleguru
quote:You might extrapolate to consider slow enough even to be apprehended and detained?
and anyone coming through the door would have to slowly climb through a broken window.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:10 am to tigerskin
I am definitely not suicidal or want to die but I was talking to my friends yesterday about Covid and the woman who died at the capital and my main take away was that now would be a good time if you had to check out because the next 4 years will be insufferable, especially if we can’t take back the Senate and/or the house in 2022.
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:10 am to WildManGoose
quote:So if 10-20 one after the other did this, and they were going to be apprehended, who exactly is going to stop the next 10-20 or 100 people from walking right through that hallway?
You might extrapolate to consider slow enough even to be apprehended and detained?
Posted on 1/7/21 at 11:11 am to WildManGoose
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You might extrapolate to consider slow enough even to be apprehended and detained?
Not when you have a limited amount of agents/officers and several people waiting to come through. That's just asking to get quickly overrun.
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